Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 This is the latest from this person I've been treating. Apparently a Dr. Cheney is a proclaimed 'expert' on CFIDS. She emailed this to me and now wants to chase after this bit: > CFS & DIASTOLIC CARDIOMYOPATHY > Paul Cheney, M.D., Ph.D. > Dr. Paul Cheney will speak on Saturday, June 18th from 2 to 5 pm in > Irving, TX. (Between Dallas and Fort Worth.) > > The seminar will focus on the most significant research breakthrough > yet in the area of CFS: this illness that keeps so many of us confined > to beds or sofas for a significant part of each day may actually be > saving our lives. CFS is a compensatory defense mechanism against a > particular kind of heart problem that is extremely difficult to detect > without proper equipment, trained technicians, and a highly > knowledgeable doctor to interpret the data. " I agree with what Yehuda said about securing her trust and curtailing her doctor- amd remedy-shopping and confusion. Though I have been insistent, she persists, and is often impressed with M.D. and Ph.D after names. Cheney may have something important to say, but that is not the point. Frances Gander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2005 Report Share Posted March 13, 2005 Googling Dr. Cheney MD reveals a lot of hits... His protocol seems to be a lot of supplements and then this... How can the brain be protected against excitatory neurotoxicity? Klonopin. This long acting benzodiazepine has been Cheney's most effective drug for CFIDS over the years. He believes that Klonopin and the supplement magnesium may be two of the most important treatments for CFIDS patients because of their neuroprotective qualities. He recommends 2 or more 0.5 mg tablets of Klonopin at night. Paradoxically, very small doses (usually a quarter to a half a tablet) in the morning and mid-afternoon improve cognitive function and energy. If the daytime dose is low enough, you'll experience greater clarity and think better. If the daytime dose is too high, you'll become drowsy. Adjust your dose for maximum benefit, taking as much as possible without drowsiness. Adjust the morning dose first, then take the same amount midafternoon if needed, then take three to four times the morning dose at bedtime. Cheney recommends doubling the dose during severe relapses. Dr. Cheney most frequently prescribes the combination of Klonopin and Doxepin, along with the supplement " Magnesium Glycinate Forte " . (Made by Douglas Labs, it includes taurine, and is available from needs.com.) Magnesium Glycinate alone is a good choice for the more budget minded. (It's available from http://needs.com as " Magnesium Complex " made by Klaire. Immunesupport.com sells it as " Magnesium Plus " .) A common dosage of magnesium is 200 mgs at bedtime. Too much magnesium can cause diarrhea, though glycinate is usually the best tolerated form. Cheney prescribes Doxepin in the form of a commercial elixir (10mg/ml). At low doses this tricyclic anti-depressant acts as a very potent antihistamine and immune modulator. Doxepin acts synergistically with Klonopin to assist sleep, and may improve pain. Patients tend to be very sensitive to Doxepin, which can cause morning fog and fatigue if the dose is too high (5 to 10 mg or higher). He recommends starting at two drops a night and gradually increasing the dose until " morning fog " becomes a problem. Most patients can't tolerate more than half a cc. ___________ I guess it's too late for me to go to Med. School and become an expert like him.... doug , frances gander <threetreasures@f...> wrote: > This is the latest from this person I've been treating. Apparently a > Dr. Cheney is a proclaimed 'expert' on CFIDS. She emailed this to me and > now wants to chase after this bit: > > > CFS & DIASTOLIC CARDIOMYOPATHY > > Paul Cheney, M.D., Ph.D. > > Dr. Paul Cheney will speak on Saturday, June 18th from 2 to 5 pm in > > Irving, TX. (Between Dallas and Fort Worth.) > > > > The seminar will focus on the most significant research breakthrough > > yet in the area of CFS: this illness that keeps so many of us confined > > to beds or sofas for a significant part of each day may actually be > > saving our lives. CFS is a compensatory defense mechanism against a > > particular kind of heart problem that is extremely difficult to detect > > without proper equipment, trained technicians, and a highly > > knowledgeable doctor to interpret the data. " > > I agree with what Yehuda said about securing her trust and curtailing > her doctor- amd remedy-shopping and confusion. Though I have been > insistent, she persists, and is often impressed with M.D. and Ph.D after > names. Cheney may have something important to say, but that is not the > point. > > Frances Gander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Klonopin. This long acting benzodiazepine has been Cheney's most effective drug for CFIDS over the years. >>>>Boy to say Klonopin is brain protecting is quite a stretch.Doxepin is a good drug in low doses for its sleep promoting and anti-histamine effects, but were the does he get the so called immune modulating info? any ref? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2005 Report Share Posted March 14, 2005 Klonopin is one of the scarier drugs out there, highly addictive. I had to send a young patient to a detox unit once because his withdrawal symptoms were so horrible. Stevie Nicks said that getting off Klonopin was worse then getting off cocaine. On Mar 13, 2005, at 11:50 PM, wrote: > Googling Dr. Cheney MD reveals a lot of hits... > His protocol seems to be a lot of supplements and then this... > > How can the brain be protected against excitatory neurotoxicity? > Klonopin. This long > acting benzodiazepine has been Cheney's most effective drug for CFIDS > over the years. He > believes that Klonopin and the supplement magnesium may be two of the > most important > treatments for CFIDS patients because of their neuroprotective > qualities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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