Guest guest Posted April 6, 2005 Report Share Posted April 6, 2005 I agree with what you say here, although patterns such as spleen qi vacuity food damage sometimes do clear with time, depending on other factors such as season, stress, age, or emotional state. While the spleen vacuity may be constitutional, it doesn't always mean that the patient will have to take herbs or supplements the rest of their life. It does mean they do need to be more careful than the average person about diet. On Apr 6, 2005, at 1:13 PM, wrote: > > this term or words to this effect may be used on clinic forms at PCOM > to denote inborn tendencies that promote disease. To me, this could be > nothing other than genetic differences. If a genetic difference > interferes with cellular water excretion, for example, then such a > person would tend to get " damp " in TCM terms. I tell my students when > we discuss conditions like dampness or food damage that they may be > caused by those whose spleen is weak regardless of what they eat. In > many cases, there would appear to be no permanent correction for such > an imbalance. that person would have to be extra scrupulous about diet > but would also likely have to take some kind of supplements to build > spleen qi and move food and water. And they would likely never reach a > place where they were free of this need. Even if herbs and other > supplements do successfully shore up this inborn weakness, thus > resolving the syndromes associated with them, the genetic tendency > cannot be corrected, so the patient will always regress if therapy is > discontinued. And eventually, genetics will win out over all > intervention. Otherwise, why do even the most scrupulous and compliant > still age and die? this idea is not only not foreign to TCM, but > actually basic to it. And remarkably, like many ideas of TCM, when put > to the test of science, it all makes perfect sense. > > > > Chinese Herbs > > > > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, > including board approved continuing education classes, an annual > conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Otherwise, why do even the most scrupulous and compliant > still age and die? Isn't that what we and everything else is supposed to do? According to the second law of thermodynamics, the direction of energy flow (complexity) makes life possible but also makes sure that life ends (dispersion). Things fall apart, yin and yang are ever changing. We all have to die of something sometime. Jill Likkel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2005 Report Share Posted April 7, 2005 Dear Though I generally agree with this post, I would qualify that it is possible to change DNA, (both for better and for worse) and though changes made in diet, environment, lifestyle, and supplementation may not make that much difference with the fallibility and mortality of patient himself, it can make a significant difference or correction if you will, for their progeny. sincerely, Yehuda On Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:13:27 -0700 < writes: > > this term or words to this effect may be used on clinic forms at > PCOM > to denote inborn tendencies that promote disease. To me, this could > be > nothing other than genetic differences. If a genetic difference > interferes with cellular water excretion, for example, then such a > person would tend to get " damp " in TCM terms. I tell my students > when > we discuss conditions like dampness or food damage that they may be > caused by those whose spleen is weak regardless of what they eat. > In > many cases, there would appear to be no permanent correction for > such > an imbalance. that person would have to be extra scrupulous about > diet > but would also likely have to take some kind of supplements to build > > spleen qi and move food and water. And they would likely never > reach a > place where they were free of this need. Even if herbs and other > supplements do successfully shore up this inborn weakness, thus > resolving the syndromes associated with them, the genetic tendency > cannot be corrected, so the patient will always regress if therapy > is > discontinued. And eventually, genetics will win out over all > intervention. Otherwise, why do even the most scrupulous and > compliant > still age and die? this idea is not only not foreign to TCM, but > actually basic to it. And remarkably, like many ideas of TCM, when > put > to the test of science, it all makes perfect sense. > > > > Chinese Herbs > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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