Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 those who are so sure the coming revolution in western medicine will not manifest seem to have forgotten about leonardo davinci who invented many things that later came to be. however in his day, it is not that the science or intellect did not exist, it was merely that technology was not yet advanced enough to implement the ideas. As long as the science is valid, the technology will likely catch up, if history is any guide. Many people confuse science and technology and thus miss the big picture. The science of nanobiology is strong in concept and the technology will arrive one day in our lifetimes. The Lesson of Leonardo Efforts to project engineering developments have a long history, and past examples illustrate present possibilities. For example, how did Leonardo da Vinci succeed in foreseeing so much, and why did he sometimes fail? Leonardo lived five hundred years ago, his life spanning the discovery of the New World. He made projections in the form of drawings and inventions; each design may be seen as a projection that something much like it could be made to work. He succeeded as a mechanical engineer: he designed workable devices (some were not to be built for centuries) for excavating, metalworking, transmitting power, and other purposes. He failed as an aircraft engineer: we now know that his flying machines could never be made to work as described. His successes at machine design are easy to understand. If parts can be made accurately enough, of a hard enough, strong enough material, then the design of slow-moving machines with levers, pulleys, and rolling bearings becomes a matter of geometry and leverage. Leonardo understood these quite well. Some of his " predictions " were long-range, but only because many years passed before people learned to make parts precise enough, hard enough, and strong enough to build (for instance) good ball bearings - their use came some three hundred years after Leonardo proposed them. Similarly, gears with superior, cycloidal teeth went unmade for almost two centuries after Leonardo drew them, and one of his chain-drive designs went unbuilt for almost three centuries. His failures with aircraft are also easy to understand. Because Leonardo's age lacked a science of aerodynamics, he could neither calculate the forces on wings nor know the requirements for aircraft power and control. Can people in our time hope to make projections regarding molecular machines as accurate as those Leonardo da Vinci made regarding metal machines? Can we avoid errors like those in his plans for flying machines? Leonardo's example suggests that we can. It may help to remember that Leonardo himself probably lacked confidence in his aircraft, and that his errors nonetheless held a germ of truth. He was right to believe that flying machines of some sort were possible-indeed, he could be certain of it because they already existed. Birds, bats, and bees proved the possibility of flight. Further, though there were no working examples of his ball bearings, gears, and chain drives, he could have confidence in their principles. Able minds had already built a broad foundation of knowledge about geometry and the laws of leverage. The required strength and accuracy of the parts may have caused him doubt, but not their interplay of function and motion. Leonardo could propose machines requiring better parts than any then known, and still have a measure of confidence in his designs. Proposed molecular technologies likewise rest on a broad foundation of knowledge, not only of geometry and leverage, but of chemical bonding, statistical mechanics, and physics in general. This time, though, the problems of material properties and fabrication accuracy do not arise in any separate way. The properties of atoms and bonds are the material properties, and atoms come prefabricated and perfectly standardized. Thus we now seem better prepared for foresight than were people in Leonardo's time: we know more about molecules and controlled bonding than they knew about steel and precision machining. In addition, we can point to nanomachines that already exist in the cell as Leonardo could point to the machines (birds) already flying in the sky. Projecting how second-generation nanomachines can be built by protein machines is surely easier than it was to project how precise steel machines would be built starting with the cruder machines of Leonardo's time. Learning to use crude machines to make more precise machines was bound to take time, and the methods were far from obvious. Molecular machines, in contrast, will be built from identical prefabricated atomic parts which need only be assembled. Making precise machines with crooked machines must have been harder to imagine then than molecular assembly is now. And besides, we know that molecular assembly happens all the time in nature. Again, we have firmer grounds for confidence than Leonardo did. In Leonardo's time, people had scant knowledge of electricity and magnetism, and knew nothing of molecules and quantum mechanics. Accordingly, electric lights, radios, and computers would have baffled them. Today, however, the basic laws most important to engineering - those describing normal matter - seem well understood. As with surviving theories of gravity, the scientific engine of disproof has forced surviving theories of matter into close agreement. Such knowledge is recent. Before this century people did not understand why solids were solid or why the Sun shone. Scientists did not understand the laws that governed matter in the ordinary world of molecules, people, planets, and stars. This is why our century has sprouted transistors and hydrogen bombs, and why molecular technology draws near. This knowledge brings new hopes and dangers, but at least it gives us the means to see ahead and to prepare. When the basic laws of a technology are known, future possibilities can be foreseen (though with gaps, or Leonardo would have foreseen mechanical computers). Even when the basic laws are poorly known, as were the principles of aerodynamics in Leonardo's time, nature can demonstrate possibilities. Finally, when both science and nature point to a possibility, these lessons suggest that we take it to heart and plan accordingly. Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Leonardo da Vinci has been one of my heroes since I've been eight years old. If what you say is true, who is to say that there are fertile ideas in Chinese medical literature that will also come to pass in the future? This is what I am looking for in the traditional sources. A link for those who are interested on Bill Joy's article on nanotechnology and the future: http://wired-vig.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html On Apr 17, 2005, at 2:46 PM, wrote: > > those who are so sure the coming revolution in western medicine will > not manifest seem to have forgotten about leonardo davinci who invented > many things that later came to be. however in his day, it is not that > the science or intellect did not exist, it was merely that technology > was not yet advanced enough to implement the ideas. As long as the > science is valid, the technology will likely catch up, if history is > any guide. Many people confuse science and technology and thus miss > the big picture. The science of nanobiology is strong in concept and > the technology will arrive one day in our lifetimes. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2005 Report Share Posted April 20, 2005 > > > On Behalf Of > Sunday, April 17, 2005 7:37 PM > > Re: leonardo and the coming revolution > > > Leonardo da Vinci has been one of my heroes since I've been eight years > old. If what you say is true, who is to say that there are fertile > ideas in Chinese medical literature that will also come to pass in the > future? This is what I am looking for in the traditional sources. [Jason] This is a good point, and very valid... As much as enjoy reading modern journal articles and CM advances I find just as much, not only inspiration, but pure insight from the classics... I am currently going through the SHL once again for who knows how many times, and I am getting once again incredible insights and deeper understanding into my herbal knowledge & treatments... Our modern TCM zang-fu approach surely misses many of the nuances, especially in regard to pathomechanism and subtleties of herbs that are in the SHL... Wow a book that is 1800 years old... Well worth studying... -Jason > > A link for those who are interested on Bill Joy's article on > nanotechnology and the future: > > http://wired-vig.wired.com/wired/archive/8.04/joy.html > > > > > On Apr 17, 2005, at 2:46 PM, wrote: > > > > > those who are so sure the coming revolution in western medicine will > > not manifest seem to have forgotten about leonardo davinci who invented > > many things that later came to be. however in his day, it is not that > > the science or intellect did not exist, it was merely that technology > > was not yet advanced enough to implement the ideas. As long as the > > science is valid, the technology will likely catch up, if history is > > any guide. Many people confuse science and technology and thus miss > > the big picture. The science of nanobiology is strong in concept and > > the technology will arrive one day in our lifetimes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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