phlegm filling the vacuum of vacuity-a follow up question

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One other thing--I came across the herb meng shi in my materiae medica,

including an very successful anti-seizure formula for it's use, in Chen.

In Him-che Yeung's handbook of Chinese Herbs, she mentions another

formula by name which also sounds interesting: meng shi gun tan wan, but

it's neither mentioned in her nor in Bensky's formula book. Can anyone

help with the formula as well as comments as to it's source and use.

 

Thanks again,

 

Yehuda

 

 

 

 

On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:35:01 -0500 " " <alonmarcus

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> So rather than thinking about the wind " filling "

> the emptiness,

> >>>>>>There have been others (Chinese articles) that have used the

> image of evils " filling " so-called empty spaces caused by deficiency

> in general. I have seen this regarding phlegm and blood stasis.

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> Oakland, CA 94609

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Yehuda,

it is maddening. I know I have the formula somewhere. I can¹t find it.

You could take a look at Gun tang wan. Pg 424 of F and S. it the only

reference to the book to meng shi. And it¹s kind of a mix of the strategies

you¹ve been using.

meng shi

da huang

Huang qin

Chen xiang.

 

Drains fire, expels ( my word, not a perfect choice) phlegm.

Used for dian kuang: yin and yang madness.

 

hope this helps,

Cara

 

> One other thing--I came across the herb meng shi in my materiae medica,

> including an very successful anti-seizure formula for it's use, in Chen.

> In Him-che Yeung's handbook of Chinese Herbs, she mentions another

> formula by name which also sounds interesting: meng shi gun tan wan, but

> it's neither mentioned in her nor in Bensky's formula book. Can anyone

> help with the formula as well as comments as to it's source and use.

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Yehuda

>

>

>

>

> On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:35:01 -0500 " " <alonmarcus

> writes:

>> > So rather than thinking about the wind " filling "

>> > the emptiness,

>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>There have been others (Chinese articles) that have used the

>> > image of evils " filling " so-called empty spaces caused by deficiency

>> > in general. I have seen this regarding phlegm and blood stasis.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > Oakland, CA 94609

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Thanks Cara,

 

After I wrote, I saw Gun tang wan in Bensky, and as you say, it follows

simplistically the same essential strategy we have been taken.

 

On Sun, 08 May 2005 15:27:12 -0400 Cara Frank <herbbabe

writes:

> Yehuda,

> it is maddening. I know I have the formula somewhere. I can¹t find

> it.

> You could take a look at Gun tang wan. Pg 424 of F and S. it the

> only

> reference to the book to meng shi. And it¹s kind of a mix of the

> strategies

> you¹ve been using.

> meng shi

> da huang

> Huang qin

> Chen xiang.

>

> Drains fire, expels ( my word, not a perfect choice) phlegm.

> Used for dian kuang: yin and yang madness.

>

> hope this helps,

> Cara

>

> > One other thing--I came across the herb meng shi in my materiae

> medica,

> > including an very successful anti-seizure formula for it's use, in

> Chen.

> > In Him-che Yeung's handbook of Chinese Herbs, she mentions another

> > formula by name which also sounds interesting: meng shi gun tan

> wan, but

> > it's neither mentioned in her nor in Bensky's formula book. Can

> anyone

> > help with the formula as well as comments as to it's source and

> use.

> >

> > Thanks again,

> >

> > Yehuda

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:35:01 -0500 " "

> <alonmarcus

> > writes:

> >> > So rather than thinking about the wind " filling "

> >> > the emptiness,

> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>There have been others (Chinese articles) that have

> used the

> >> > image of evils " filling " so-called empty spaces caused by

> deficiency

> >> > in general. I have seen this regarding phlegm and blood stasis.

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > Oakland, CA 94609

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >