Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China No.1 (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - ingredients? ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Roger, This is what I've found so far: http://www.tianxian.com/ I've searched and searched this site, but they won't tell you what the ingredients of any of their formulas are. * TIAN XIAN CAPSULES: NO. 1 For alimentary system, such as esophagus, stomach, small and large intestine, colon, rectum. NO. 3 For leukemia, multiple myeloma and reducing the reaction and toxic side effects of chemo and radiation therapies. NO. 5 For lung, salivary gland, nasopharyngeal, oral, larynge, metastasis to brain. NO. 6 For liver, gallbladder, pancreas, hepatitis, cirrhosis. NO. 7 For reproductive organs, such as breast, ovary, uterus, vagina, prostate, testis, oophoroma, thyroid, lymph node, lymphatic, kidney, bone, skin and brain. HOW TO TAKE CHINA NO. 1 TIAN XIAN HERBAL ANTI-CANCER SUPPLEMENTS. DOSAGE/USES. TIAN XIAN LIQUID: drinking on empty stomach and keeping liquid in the mouth for some time, slowly swallowing is better, follow with water only after 10-20 minutes). Day 1 - 3, drink 10cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM, 9PM, 3AM-6AM Day 4 - 94 onward, drink 10cc at AM 6, 9, 12: PM 3, 6, 9. or Drink 20 cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM & 9PM. Day 95 - onward, revert to 4X10cc same as day 1 if after testing, the cancer is under now control. (note: for the 3AM-6AM time, do not wake up the person. When one wakes up to urinate, then drink the TXL. Sleep is better) If diarrhea or loose bowel movement happens, please stop temporarily the TIAN XIAN LIQUID. Give the patient ginger tonic. This is because the patient is having cool and vague physique, which maybe improved by drinking once daily one glass of ginger tonic. Or put fresh ginger slices when eating meal. Bob , rw2@r... wrote: > > > Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China No.1 > (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - > ingredients? > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Bob, Thanks for taking the time to look into this. One of our group members has a relative in Poland who stumbled onto this. I don't like dealing with these unknown remedies, and usually try to explain why there is no such thing as a universal cancer remedy, especially if individual factors are not considered. Roger > " Bob Flaws " <pemachophel2001 >Re: Tian Xian lub China No.1 ?? > >Roger, > >This is what I've found so far: > >http://www.tianxian.com/ > >I've searched and searched this site, but they won't tell you what the >ingredients of any of their formulas are. > >* TIAN XIAN CAPSULES: NO. 1 For alimentary system, such as esophagus, >stomach, small and large intestine, colon, rectum. > >NO. 3 For leukemia, multiple myeloma and reducing the reaction and >toxic side effects of chemo and radiation therapies. > >NO. 5 For lung, salivary gland, nasopharyngeal, oral, larynge, >metastasis to brain. > >NO. 6 For liver, gallbladder, pancreas, hepatitis, cirrhosis. > >NO. 7 For reproductive organs, such as breast, ovary, uterus, vagina, >prostate, testis, oophoroma, thyroid, lymph node, lymphatic, kidney, >bone, skin and brain. > > > >HOW TO TAKE CHINA NO. 1 TIAN XIAN HERBAL ANTI-CANCER SUPPLEMENTS. >DOSAGE/USES. > >TIAN XIAN LIQUID: drinking on empty stomach and keeping liquid in the >mouth for some time, slowly swallowing is better, follow with water >only after 10-20 minutes). > >Day 1 - 3, drink 10cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM, 9PM, 3AM-6AM > >Day 4 - 94 onward, drink 10cc at AM 6, 9, 12: PM 3, 6, 9. or Drink 20 >cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM & 9PM. > >Day 95 - onward, revert to 4X10cc same as day 1 if after testing, the >cancer is under now control. >(note: for the 3AM-6AM time, do not wake up the person. When one wakes >up to urinate, then drink the TXL. Sleep is better) > >If diarrhea or loose bowel movement happens, please stop temporarily >the TIAN XIAN LIQUID. Give the patient ginger tonic. This is because >the patient is having cool and vague physique, which maybe improved by >drinking once daily one glass of ginger tonic. Or put fresh ginger >slices when eating meal. > >Bob > > > , rw2@r... wrote: >> >> >> Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China >No.1 >> (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - >> ingredients? >> ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Don't they list some of the ingredients here? http://www.tianxian.com/products/ingredients.asp Sean _____ On Behalf Of Bob Flaws Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:13 PM Re: Tian Xian lub China No.1 ?? Roger, This is what I've found so far: http://www.tianxian.com/ I've searched and searched this site, but they won't tell you what the ingredients of any of their formulas are. * TIAN XIAN CAPSULES: NO. 1 For alimentary system, such as esophagus, stomach, small and large intestine, colon, rectum. NO. 3 For leukemia, multiple myeloma and reducing the reaction and toxic side effects of chemo and radiation therapies. NO. 5 For lung, salivary gland, nasopharyngeal, oral, larynge, metastasis to brain. NO. 6 For liver, gallbladder, pancreas, hepatitis, cirrhosis. NO. 7 For reproductive organs, such as breast, ovary, uterus, vagina, prostate, testis, oophoroma, thyroid, lymph node, lymphatic, kidney, bone, skin and brain. HOW TO TAKE CHINA NO. 1 TIAN XIAN HERBAL ANTI-CANCER SUPPLEMENTS. DOSAGE/USES. TIAN XIAN LIQUID: drinking on empty stomach and keeping liquid in the mouth for some time, slowly swallowing is better, follow with water only after 10-20 minutes). Day 1 - 3, drink 10cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM, 9PM, 3AM-6AM Day 4 - 94 onward, drink 10cc at AM 6, 9, 12: PM 3, 6, 9. or Drink 20 cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM & 9PM. Day 95 - onward, revert to 4X10cc same as day 1 if after testing, the cancer is under now control. (note: for the 3AM-6AM time, do not wake up the person. When one wakes up to urinate, then drink the TXL. Sleep is better) If diarrhea or loose bowel movement happens, please stop temporarily the TIAN XIAN LIQUID. Give the patient ginger tonic. This is because the patient is having cool and vague physique, which maybe improved by drinking once daily one glass of ginger tonic. Or put fresh ginger slices when eating meal. Bob , rw2@r... wrote: > > > Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China No.1 > (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - > ingredients? > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 The ingedient pages are careful to say... most of... or some other qualifier leading one to believe there is a secret ingredient somewhere. Otherwise the ingredients seem pretty standard to me. doug , " Sean Doherty " <sean@n...> wrote: > Don't they list some of the ingredients here? > http://www.tianxian.com/products/ingredients.asp > > > > Sean > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bob Flaws > Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:13 PM > > Re: Tian Xian lub China No.1 ?? > > > > Roger, > > This is what I've found so far: > > http://www.tianxian.com/ > > I've searched and searched this site, but they won't tell you what the > ingredients of any of their formulas are. > > * TIAN XIAN CAPSULES: NO. 1 For alimentary system, such as esophagus, > stomach, small and large intestine, colon, rectum. > > NO. 3 For leukemia, multiple myeloma and reducing the reaction and > toxic side effects of chemo and radiation therapies. > > NO. 5 For lung, salivary gland, nasopharyngeal, oral, larynge, > metastasis to brain. > > NO. 6 For liver, gallbladder, pancreas, hepatitis, cirrhosis. > > NO. 7 For reproductive organs, such as breast, ovary, uterus, vagina, > prostate, testis, oophoroma, thyroid, lymph node, lymphatic, kidney, > bone, skin and brain. > > > > HOW TO TAKE CHINA NO. 1 TIAN XIAN HERBAL ANTI-CANCER SUPPLEMENTS. > DOSAGE/USES. > > TIAN XIAN LIQUID: drinking on empty stomach and keeping liquid in the > mouth for some time, slowly swallowing is better, follow with water > only after 10-20 minutes). > > Day 1 - 3, drink 10cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM, 9PM, 3AM-6AM > > Day 4 - 94 onward, drink 10cc at AM 6, 9, 12: PM 3, 6, 9. or Drink 20 > cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM & 9PM. > > Day 95 - onward, revert to 4X10cc same as day 1 if after testing, the > cancer is under now control. > (note: for the 3AM-6AM time, do not wake up the person. When one wakes > up to urinate, then drink the TXL. Sleep is better) > > If diarrhea or loose bowel movement happens, please stop temporarily > the TIAN XIAN LIQUID. Give the patient ginger tonic. This is because > the patient is having cool and vague physique, which maybe improved by > drinking once daily one glass of ginger tonic. Or put fresh ginger > slices when eating meal. > > Bob > > > > > > , rw2@r... wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China > No.1 > > (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - > > ingredients? > > > > > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Sean, You're correct. Sorry, seems I didn't go deep enough into their pages. Bob , " Sean Doherty " <sean@n...> wrote: > Don't they list some of the ingredients here? > http://www.tianxian.com/products/ingredients.asp > > > > Sean > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bob Flaws > Thursday, June 02, 2005 3:13 PM > > Re: Tian Xian lub China No.1 ?? > > > > Roger, > > This is what I've found so far: > > http://www.tianxian.com/ > > I've searched and searched this site, but they won't tell you what the > ingredients of any of their formulas are. > > * TIAN XIAN CAPSULES: NO. 1 For alimentary system, such as esophagus, > stomach, small and large intestine, colon, rectum. > > NO. 3 For leukemia, multiple myeloma and reducing the reaction and > toxic side effects of chemo and radiation therapies. > > NO. 5 For lung, salivary gland, nasopharyngeal, oral, larynge, > metastasis to brain. > > NO. 6 For liver, gallbladder, pancreas, hepatitis, cirrhosis. > > NO. 7 For reproductive organs, such as breast, ovary, uterus, vagina, > prostate, testis, oophoroma, thyroid, lymph node, lymphatic, kidney, > bone, skin and brain. > > > > HOW TO TAKE CHINA NO. 1 TIAN XIAN HERBAL ANTI-CANCER SUPPLEMENTS. > DOSAGE/USES. > > TIAN XIAN LIQUID: drinking on empty stomach and keeping liquid in the > mouth for some time, slowly swallowing is better, follow with water > only after 10-20 minutes). > > Day 1 - 3, drink 10cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM, 9PM, 3AM-6AM > > Day 4 - 94 onward, drink 10cc at AM 6, 9, 12: PM 3, 6, 9. or Drink 20 > cc during the following hours: 9AM, 3PM & 9PM. > > Day 95 - onward, revert to 4X10cc same as day 1 if after testing, the > cancer is under now control. > (note: for the 3AM-6AM time, do not wake up the person. When one wakes > up to urinate, then drink the TXL. Sleep is better) > > If diarrhea or loose bowel movement happens, please stop temporarily > the TIAN XIAN LIQUID. Give the patient ginger tonic. This is because > the patient is having cool and vague physique, which maybe improved by > drinking once daily one glass of ginger tonic. Or put fresh ginger > slices when eating meal. > > Bob > > > > > > , rw2@r... wrote: > > > > > > Does anyone on this list have information about " Tian Xian lub China > No.1 > > (China No. 1 Tian Xian) " - a formula presumably used for cancer - > > ingredients? > > > > > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > ---Roger Wicke, PhD, TCM Clinical Herbalist > > contact: www.rmhiherbal.org/contact/ > > Rocky Mountain Herbal Institute, Hot Springs, Montana USA > > Clinical herbology training programs - www.rmhiherbal.org > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including > board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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