Bohegen (Menthae Rx) versus Bohegeng (Menthae Caulis)

[Guest guest]

Hi All,

 

Eric Brand wrote:

>> Bo he geng (the stem) is considered to be better at rectifying qi,

whereas bo he ye (the leaves) are considered to be better at resolving

the exterior.

 

 

Al Stone replied:

> I like Bo He for its systematic correspondences. The stem is

> metaphorically related to the channels or vessels. It is a means by

> which nutrients get from the ground to the leaves. So, the stem's

> medicinal effect centers on the channels and moving Qi (and nutrients

> and fluids...). The leaf is where the gas exchange happens in the

> plant, and its effect is where the gas exchange occurs in the human,

> specifically the Lungs and the skin/exterior. I wish all the herbs

> explained so well. : ) Might be that this original question about Bo He

> Gen really is about Be He Geng.

 

Google has only one hit for:

Bohegen OR Bohegeng OR Bo-He-Gen OR Bo-He-Geng

 

It is: a link to www.bluepoppy.com/press/download/articles/tian-shi.cfm

that says:

" Caulis Menthae Haplocalycis (Bo He Gen). (Herba Menthae [bo He]

can be substituted for Caulis Menthae.) Functions: Clears the liver and

harmonizes the ... "

 

IMO, this is an error. GEN = ROOT, whereas GENG=Caulis; Caulis

Menthae Haplocalycis should be Bo He Geng (and not Bo-he-gen).

 

However, Google has 157 hits in CHINESE for the HANZI terms for bo-

he-geng and Bo-he-gen. See: http://tinyurl.com/7etc6

 

Would Chinese scholars on the List like to summarise the details from

those Google pages and report thrir summary translations back to the

List?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

 

Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

 

Ireland.

Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

 

 

 

" Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

Chinese Proverb

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil, I poked around at these and most of the things for bo he geng were

recipies which seemed to be calling for a " bunch " of mint, like you might

talk about a stem of flowers perhaps... The bo he gen refs usually were

descriptions of horticultural aspects of mint, which apparently has a

perennial root. One was a kid's story of working in his mother's garden,

very cute. I didn't see anything that was obviously medical in the first

page or two. I've got some time tonight so I'll see if baidu.com has any

better references.

 

Par

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Sunday, June 12, 2005 10:23 PM

Bohegen (Menthae Rx) versus Bohegeng (Menthae Caulis)

 

 

>> Google has only one hit for:

> Bohegen OR Bohegeng OR Bo-He-Gen OR Bo-He-Geng

>

> It is: a link to www.bluepoppy.com/press/download/articles/tian-shi.cfm

> that says:

> " Caulis Menthae Haplocalycis (Bo He Gen). (Herba Menthae [bo He]

> can be substituted for Caulis Menthae.) Functions: Clears the liver and

> harmonizes the ... "

>

> IMO, this is an error. GEN = ROOT, whereas GENG=Caulis; Caulis

> Menthae Haplocalycis should be Bo He Geng (and not Bo-he-gen).

>

> However, Google has 157 hits in CHINESE for the HANZI terms for bo-

> he-geng and Bo-he-gen. See: http://tinyurl.com/7etc6

>

> Would Chinese scholars on the List like to summarise the details from

> those Google pages and report thrir summary translations back to the

> List?

>

>

Best regards,

>

>

> Tel: (H): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

>

>

>

>

> Ireland.

> Tel: (W): +353-(0) or (M): +353-(0)

>

>

>

> " Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt man doing it " -

> Chinese Proverb

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Phil,

 

Somewhat scanty medical paydirt:

 

Bo he root secretions also inhibit the growth of radish seedlings, so if you

have an infection of radish seedlings it could be helpful.

 

Here's one medical reference, looks like a list of formula modifications

based on experience of a practitioner, the title translation is roughly

" good ideas from the midst of medicine " . It is added to a formula in the

last part of the text.

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which I'm translating roughly as: because he vomits without stop, from the

formula remove sheng ma, use dan[zhu ye?] [and huang] qin three qian to

substitute for it. The exterior is not hot and the pulse seems normal,

remove lu gen again? add BO HE GEN four qian, [and add] yu ling dan four fen

[compound medicinal for opening the orifices]

 

If anybody wants the whole text file for this " book " go to the url below,

it's not huge, I searched for the text's name online and came up with a few

hits for what's possibly a CD ROM compilation...

http://www.dyjc.net/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=23 & topic=144

 

http://www.cs.gd.cn/Article/yswh/csmsccyl/200504/11000.html this url is for

info on shan[mountain] bo he, which mentions the root being used with wu jia

pi, shan dou gen, shui zhi, and rice wine for wind damp joint pain, but I

don't know if this is at all close to regular bo he or some country cousin.

Couldn't cut and paste this.

 

If you're searching chinese text try baidu.com, it's a chinese google

knockoff that indexes more chinese pages than google and almost always gets

better hits on chinese material for me.

 

Par