Digest Number 2457

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Eric, Alon, Bob, et al,

 

While agree that Andy is an expert in the field and that what he and Bob are

saying may be true in some cases, I believe it to be the exception not the rule.

This may in fact be the way it is done in China but in Europe, where most of

these products are made, it is as Alon put forth. I'm pretty sure of this but

have sent an email to a friend of mine who will be able to give me very specific

information on the subject.

 

Thomas

 

 

 

Message: 6

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 04:03:49 -0000

" Eric Brand "

Re: dosages

 

Andy Ellis was recently discussing the issue of standardized extracts.

He said that in fact, the standardized extracts are made by

introducing a known quantity of isolated marker chemicals into an

extact. For example, standardized extracts of ginseng are made by

using a poor quality ginseng and adding in isolated ginsenosides so

that it has a consistent minimum percentage. The isolated

ginsenosides are taken from ginseng whiskers (ren shen xu), which are

dirt cheap. The whiskers have very high levels of ginsenosides but

their ginsenoside profile is inferior to that found in the root body.

So I would have to agree with Bob Flaw's assessment that these

products are basically unknown new drugs- extracts of dubious quality

base ingredients with isolated or synthetic marker chemicals added,

most likely skewing the natural ratio of chemicals that the whole

extract contains.

 

I was under the same impression that Alon has expressed, that the

extracts were full-spectrum and just met a minimum standard. Andy

claims just the opposite, and he is a specialist in this area. Maybe

both products exist in the market.

 

Eric

 

 

 

 

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