Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 To be generous... better English might be... The public should be warned again that Chinese herbs that may contain aristolochic acid are not permitted by the Japanese government. doug The public should be warned again that Chinese herbs, which are not permitted by the Japanese government, may contain aristolochic acid , " " <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > > > 1: Fujimura T, Tamaki K, Iida S, Tanaka H, Ikedou H, Takamiya Y, Kato S, Tanaka A, Okuda S > > [A case of traditional herbal medicine-induced aristolochic acid nephropathy developing to end-stage renal failure] > Nippon Jinzo Gakkai Shi 2005;47(4):474-80. > A 48-year-old male was referred to our university hospital for severe azotemia with muscle cramp. He had been taking Chinese herbs as a traditional medicine to reduce hyperuricemia for about 9 months. Urinalysis showed trace proteinuria and hematuria without any casts. Renal glucosuria was also observed. In addition to azotemia, hyperchloremic metabolic acidosis and severe anemia were revealed. Hemodialysis was conducted and his general condition improved. A renal biopsy specimen revealed severe interstitial fibrosis and tubular atrophy with cellular degeneration. No remarkable glomerular changes were observed except for wrinkling of the basement membrane in a few glomeruli. Aristolochic acid was detected in the Chinese herbs, leading to the diagnosis of aristolochic acid nephropathy (AAN). His renal dysfunction was considered to be irreversible and he underwent maintenance hemodialysis. In Japan, AAN or Chinese herbs nephropathy decreased after an outbreak from 1995 to 2000. The public should be warned again that Chinese herbs, which are not permitted by the Japanese government, may contain aristolochic acid > > > > > Oakland, CA 94609 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 The research on aristolochic acid is sketchy at best and the opinions of researchers is ridiculous. Mike W. Bowser, L Ac > " " <alonmarcus > > >Re: Re: another case >Sat, 25 Jun 2005 17:02:03 -0700 > >A bit of a stretch on the conclusion and an unnecessary, opinionated >statement based upon one case is bad science. Wouldn't you agree? > >>>>It sounds a little confusing, if speaking of particular herb may be >appropriate > > > >Oakland, CA 94609 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 The research on aristolochic acid is sketchy at best and the opinions of researchers is ridiculous >>>Have you read the whole report? Oakland, CA 94609 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2005 Report Share Posted June 27, 2005 , " " <alonmarcus@w...> wrote: > The research on aristolochic acid is sketchy at best and the opinions of > researchers is ridiculous > >>>Have you read the whole report? > > > Has anyone read the whole report? We don't know what herbs the person took, who prescribed them, what the dosage was... the aristocholic acid case in Belgium (in which quite a few of the patients sadly have died over the years, from kidney failure, cancers,...) was controversial, to say the least. Eventually, no practitioner has been punished- they let their businesses go bankrupt, amongst other tactics. In this case the herbs were prescribed for slimming, in too high dosages, by an MD who had not studied Chinese herbs, and by people from his network. But the most important reason was that the evidence was not sufficient: although the plaques did have very high concentrations of aristocholic, they were denied as evidence. The plaques were sent from Belgium to France to Germany, and on the way someone had injected pure aristocholic acid in them (the concentration was so high that a person should have been drinking 200 g han fang ji decoctions daily for like their whole life). This information was given to me by Chris Dhaenens, and expert in pharmacology, who also served as expert in this case. The next step in this +10 years case is finding out who forged the evidence. Regards, Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2005 Report Share Posted June 28, 2005 Indeed - Kanpo (or Han Fa - the Chinese Method -) may be practiced only by MD's in Japan and there is a list of permitted formula, with, as I understand it, restrictions on modifications of formula. Marnae At 07:48 PM 6/25/2005, you wrote: > > > > > > On Behalf Of >The public should be warned again that Chinese herbs, which are not > > permitted by the Japanese government... > > >[Jason] >I don't get this last sentence??? Not permitted?? > >-Jason > > > > >Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including >board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a >free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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