Guest guest Posted June 25, 2005 Report Share Posted June 25, 2005 My interest at the outset is to darken the skin tone of a healthy person. Could some herbs reduce photosensitivity by supporting healthy melanocyte responses, especially in the late spring early summer or when people's exposure is sporadic? Treating existing melanomas is not my immediate question, though interesting; (I am still in clinical training as an herbalist/accupuncturist) He she wu turning the skin orange, interesting. Tu si zi for vitiligo, hm. Interesting how many of the herbs that have some dermato-tropism are tonics of essence and blood. Extreme innner connecting to extreme outer. By the way, on the subject of chocolate, it seems that when people report anti-oxident action 20% higher than red wine or 30% higher than green tea, they may be crossing a category from moving qi to moving blood. The reported aphrodisiac action of chocolate may correspond to the moving of blood, like using chuan xiong ligusticum for impotence, or relate to something of a heart-opening orifice-clearing action, like a mild yuan zhi polygala, where intimacy is enabled by clearing and supporting pericardium. Good for the summer-time. On the Latin teaching business, I got a new offer the day after leaving my old job, so I will continue the slow route to licensure in accupuncture. Carl Message: 8 Fri, 24 Jun 2005 07:32:30 -0000 " Jill A. Likkel " Re: herbs and skin cancer , carl ploss wrote: > > Isn't there an herbal formula waiting to be written to > lessen the chances of skin cancer? > > Can't the herbs that are used to prevent premature > graying of the hair be used to stimulate melanocyte > production in the skin? > Aren't there several herbs that darken pigmentation, > usually considered for the hair; like Polygonum he > shou wu, and Semen Sesami Indici hei zhi ma? They > increase melanocytes. The old Bensky mentions the use > of Bu Gu Zhi in treating vitiligo. But what I like > about he shou wu and hei zhi ma is that they are > foods. Carl, My friend that has vitiligo was advised by his Dermatologist to take a Ginko Leaf supplement because it helps stimulate the melanocytes. This is the same thing that Mazin Al-Khafaji said in a recent lecture about vitiligo. Interesting. The patients who are doing this and other treatments for vitiligo have to be careful to get the right amount of sun and not too much. Also I have been treating a patient who has had a couple of malignant melanomas. I have been treating her for blood xu and Kidney and Liver insufficiency with blood heat. Her formula has always had He Shou Wu in it until lately when I took it out because I suspected it was turning her skin orange, not a side effect she wanted. Besides being slightly orange, her dermatologist has said her skin has never looked better. No new melanomas in well over a year. Just one case mind you and the story isn't finished. Best wishes, Jill Likkel ______________________ ______________________ Message: 9 Fri, 24 Jun 2005 09:01:19 -0000 " Eric Brand " Re: herbs and skin cancer In addition to bu gu zhi, tu si zi is used topically for vitiligo. The Merck Manual also mentions that placenta extracts have variable success for treating vitiligo. Are you looking for agents that treat pathological conditions of hypopigmentation or are you trying to darken the skin of a healthy person? Eric , " Jill A. Likkel " wrote: > , carl ploss > wrote: > > > > Isn't there an herbal formula waiting to be written to > > lessen the chances of skin cancer? > > > > Can't the herbs that are used to prevent premature > > graying of the hair be used to stimulate melanocyte > > production in the skin? > > Aren't there several herbs that darken pigmentation, > > usually considered for the hair; like Polygonum he > > shou wu, and Semen Sesami Indici hei zhi ma? They > > increase melanocytes. The old Bensky mentions the use > > of Bu Gu Zhi in treating vitiligo. But what I like > > about he shou wu and hei zhi ma is that they are > > foods. > > Carl, > My friend that has vitiligo was advised by his Dermatologist to take > a Ginko Leaf supplement because it helps stimulate the melanocytes. > This is the same thing that Mazin Al-Khafaji said in a recent > lecture about vitiligo. Interesting. The patients who are doing > this and other treatments for vitiligo have to be careful to get the > right amount of sun and not too much. > > Also I have been treating a patient who has had a couple of > malignant melanomas. I have been treating her for blood xu and > Kidney and Liver insufficiency with blood heat. Her formula has > always had He Shou Wu in it until lately when I took it out because > I suspected it was turning her skin orange, not a side effect she > wanted. Besides being slightly orange, her dermatologist has said > her skin has never looked better. No new melanomas in well over a > year. > Just one case mind you and the story isn't finished. > Best wishes, > Jill Likkel ______________________ ______________________ Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 2, 2005 Report Share Posted July 2, 2005 , carl ploss <cploss> wrote: > > > By the way, on the subject of chocolate, it seems that when people report anti-oxident action 20% higher than red wine or 30% higher than green tea, they may be crossing a category from moving qi to moving blood. The reported aphrodisiac action of chocolate may correspond to the moving of blood, like using chuan xiong ligusticum for impotence, I agree. It also helps with menstrual problems more severe than just qi stag. Trader joes has good deals on very dark bitter chocolate. The best stuff shouldbe really low in sugar, too. I have noticed the serving of sugar in chocolate bars can differ by almost threefold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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