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> On Behalf Of Marnae Ergil

From my brief review of the Nei Jing, Nan Jing and Jia Yi

> Jing today this is exactly what was said - there seemed to be pretty clear

> consensus on not retaining needles.

 

 

[Jason]

I am unsure what you mean, the jia yi jing does talk about retaining the

needles quite often.

 

In one spot it actually talked about retaining the needle for different

amount of times for each channels and in the same paragraph right after that

it says, " If one is needled excessively, this gives rise to a desertion of

the qi. "

take it to mean what you like...

 

But check out these quotes from the jia yi jing:

 

1) " In applying supplementation ... The practitioner should remain calm and

quiet and unremittingly focused. (The needle) is retained for a short

time... "

 

*** here is another:***

 

2) " (The needle) should be inserted slowly, twirled gently, and retained for

a long duration in order to conduct the correct qi and to expel a true evil.

After extraction of the needle, (the patient) should rest "

 

This seems pretty clear, long duration expels evil! is expelling evil

draining evil? Short duration = supplementation... what do you think...?

 

 

Another, talking about removal of stagnant blood (evil) with long time

retention:

 

" In a chronic disease, the evil qi has penetrated deeply. When needling such

an illness, the needle must be inserted deeply and retained for a long

period of time with treatment administered once every other day. Priority

must be given to the regulation of the left or the right and the removal of

(stagnant blood) within the blood vessels. "

 

Enjoy,

 

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