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<zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

> I don't disagree. What is very interesting here is that both

> allopaths and homeopaths claim Paracelsus as 'their man'. . .there is

> a slight divergence from the idea of finding the toxic portion of a

> crude medicinal substance and using it to fight disease (allopathy)

> and finding the non-material essence of a crude medicinal substance

> and using that. But from this slight point of divergence, radically

> different medical schools developed.

 

However he is also one of the patron saints of naturopathy, an

eclectic medicine that emphasize nontoxic approaches and includes

single remedies and polypharmacy in its methods. He advocated things

that worked. Many chinese doctors have liked strong and toxic meds

for the same reason. The fact that polypharmacy was preferred by some

does not make it inherently better even if those few were the

intellectuals of their fields. The research is certainly not yet in.

According to Heiner Fruehauf, there are widespread traditions of

using singles in both folk medicine and on the margins of TCM. I

remember Guohui Liu becoming excited about making 2-3 herb formulas

that covered all your tx principles in complex cases. If you want to

promote this Unschuldian diversity, it includes disease based rx and

the use of singles and allopathy. It is not merely the study of the

literati classics.

 

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My point was that unlike in China, where new discoveries were simply

added on to older traditions, Western medical history was more

subject to 'revolutions' and the discarding of what came before. The

approaches championed by Paracelsus (whose works I am very conversant

in, I've read a lot of his stuff) were in reaction to the previous

Galenic tradition, which, as you say, stagnated medicine's

development, but also at its expense. We lost the baby with the bath

water.

 

I am interested in your change of course, considering the past

emphasis on a mainstream TCM approach on this list. I am quite open

to discussions on singles vs. polypharmacy and other approaches to

herbal medicine in China.

 

One such approach worth examining is in the new " Medieval Chinese

Medicine: The Dunhuang Manuscripts " texts. Basically a five phase

approach to herbal prescription based primarily on flavors of

medicinals and their associations with specific channels and

viscera. Straight from the Su Wen.

 

 

On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:26 AM, wrote:

 

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> <zrosenbe@s...> wrote:

>

>> I don't disagree. What is very interesting here is that both

>> allopaths and homeopaths claim Paracelsus as 'their man'. . .there is

>> a slight divergence from the idea of finding the toxic portion of a

>> crude medicinal substance and using it to fight disease (allopathy)

>> and finding the non-material essence of a crude medicinal substance

>> and using that. But from this slight point of divergence, radically

>> different medical schools developed.

>>

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> However he is also one of the patron saints of naturopathy, an

> eclectic medicine that emphasize nontoxic approaches and includes

> single remedies and polypharmacy in its methods. He advocated things

> that worked. Many chinese doctors have liked strong and toxic meds

> for the same reason. The fact that polypharmacy was preferred by some

> does not make it inherently better even if those few were the

> intellectuals of their fields. The research is certainly not yet in.

> According to Heiner Fruehauf, there are widespread traditions of

> using singles in both folk medicine and on the margins of TCM. I

> remember Guohui Liu becoming excited about making 2-3 herb formulas

> that covered all your tx principles in complex cases. If you want to

> promote this Unschuldian diversity, it includes disease based rx and

> the use of singles and allopathy. It is not merely the study of the

> literati classics.

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> including board approved continuing education classes, an annual

> conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

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