wei ling xian-throat obstruction JUST from fish bones?

[Guest guest]

Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

 

A unique property of the herb Wei Ling Xian we always were taught was its

ability to dislodge fish bones, due to its acrid, salty and warm nature. Yet, I

wonder why it is also not indicated as an essential part of the treatment for

" plum pit qi " syndrome, meaning " invisible phlegm " throat obstruction, or any

other throat obstruction interfering with the ability to swallow, for that

matter. 'Would seem to make sense, no?

 

Thanks,

 

Yehuda

 

 

[Guest guest]

A key difference between plum pit qi and fish bone obstruction is the former is

invisible whereas the later, visible.

 

In the case of fish bone obstruction, I do not see why not using modern

intervention, i.e., guided by some scope and remove by physical means.

 

Mike L.

 

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Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

 

A unique property of the herb Wei Ling Xian we always were taught was its

ability to dislodge fish bones, due to its acrid, salty and warm nature. Yet, I

wonder why it is also not indicated as an essential part of the treatment for

" plum pit qi " syndrome, meaning " invisible phlegm " throat obstruction, or any

other throat obstruction interfering with the ability to swallow, for that

matter. 'Would seem to make sense, no?

 

Thanks,

 

Yehuda

 

 

[Guest guest]

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> On Behalf Of

> Monday, July 25, 2005 3:51 PM

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> wei ling xian-throat obstruction JUST from fish bones?

>

> Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

>

> A unique property of the herb Wei Ling Xian we always were taught was its

> ability to dislodge fish bones, due to its acrid, salty and warm nature.

> Yet, I wonder why it is also not indicated as an essential part of the

> treatment for " plum pit qi " syndrome, meaning " invisible phlegm " throat

> obstruction, or any other throat obstruction interfering with the ability

> to swallow, for that matter. 'Would seem to make sense, no?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Yehuda

 

First of all wei ling xian for fish bones is taken as follows:

" thick decoction with vinegar and brown sugar, and swallow SLOWLY " - I

interpret this as somewhat of a 'topical' application... But to complicate

and to more directly answer your question, you DO see wei ling xian for many

types of throat disorders including plum pit qi. A quick quote from a

Chinese source

 

" Radix Clematidis (Wei Ling Xian) is acrid, salty and warm. Its traditional

property of softening and transforming fish bones lodged in the throat

extends to the more practical application of resolving plum-seed qi and even

a generalized sense of phlegm stuck in the throat. It may be combined with

Radix Sophorae Tonkinensis (Shan Dou Gen) in the treatment of throat

disorders characterized by heat toxin, or with Rhizoma Belamcandae Chinesis

(She Gan) in the treatment of throat disorders characterized by phlegm. "

 

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[Guest guest]

thick decoction with vinegar and brown sugar, and swallow SLOWLY " - I

interpret this as somewhat of a 'topical' application

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Has anyone ever done this?

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

An interesting note in John Chen's herb book mentions that Wei Ling

Xian doesn't literally " dissolve " fish bones, but instead relaxes the

throat muscles to help to dislodge the obstruction. p. 307

 

-DJ

 

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wrote:

> Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

>

> A unique property of the herb Wei Ling Xian we always were taught

was its ability to

dislodge fish bones, due to its acrid, salty and warm nature. Yet, I

wonder why it is also not

indicated as an essential part of the treatment for " plum pit qi "

syndrome, meaning " invisible

phlegm " throat obstruction, or any other throat obstruction

interfering with the ability to

swallow, for that matter. 'Would seem to make sense, no?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Yehuda

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have used wei ling xian for a mild case of tourettes that involved

compulsive throat clearing: in with ban xia hou po tang. It was incredibly

successful. I also remember Chip Chase discussing WLX in his breathless

workshops in relation to phlegm in the throat.

 

Cara

 

 

 

 

> An interesting note in John Chen's herb book mentions that Wei Ling

> Xian doesn't literally " dissolve " fish bones, but instead relaxes the

> throat muscles to help to dislodge the obstruction. p. 307

>

> -DJ

>

> , " " <@j...>

> wrote:

>> > Dear friends, colleagues and teachers,

>> >

>> > A unique property of the herb Wei Ling Xian we always were taught

> was its ability to

> dislodge fish bones, due to its acrid, salty and warm nature. Yet, I

> wonder why it is also not

> indicated as an essential part of the treatment for " plum pit qi "

> syndrome, meaning " invisible

> phlegm " throat obstruction, or any other throat obstruction

> interfering with the ability to

> swallow, for that matter. 'Would seem to make sense, no?

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> >

>> > Yehuda

>> >

>> >