Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 A slam against PS teachers from NY times at http://www.nytimes.com/ 2005/07/31/education/edlife/hartocollis31.html? pagewanted=3 & ei=5070 & en=b138d54e45cf77d6 & ex=1123473600 & emc=eta1 No wonder our students have so little respect for us. They have no prior experience that would suggest otherwise. For at least a decade, students who intend to major in education have had among the lowest SAT scores of all college-bound seniors - in 2004, they ranked 19th of 22 intended majors, two points in combined verbal and math scores below those who planned to major in agriculture. Even " undecided " ranked higher. And according to the American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, those who leave the profession during their first few years have higher scores than those who stay. An institute report also shows that the weaker the undergraduate college, the more likely its students will end up teaching as a career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 ANd thus the abysmal state of public education in this country. You can't get hired without a teaching certificate (even if you have a Ph.D). But I think that this statement about those who can't, teach, applies less to graduate education where most teachers have to show that they " can " before they get to teach. Marnae At 12:27 PM 8/2/2005, you wrote: >A slam against PS teachers from NY times at http://www.nytimes.com/ >2005/07/31/education/edlife/hartocollis31.html? >pagewanted=3 & ei=5070 & en=b138d54e45cf77d6 & ex=1123473600 & emc=eta1 > > No wonder our students have so little respect for us. They have >no prior experience that would suggest otherwise. > >For at least a decade, students who intend to major in education have >had among the lowest SAT scores of all college-bound seniors - in >2004, they ranked 19th of 22 intended majors, two points in combined >verbal and math scores below those who planned to major in >agriculture. Even " undecided " ranked higher. And according to the >American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, those who >leave the profession during their first few years have higher scores >than those who stay. An institute report also shows that the weaker >the undergraduate college, the more likely its students will end up >teaching as a career. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 It really depends on .... We have practitioners in our profession who can share their wisdom and still do a good job w/o a teaching certificate. And likewise, there are instructors in private general educationschools that are terrible (which is why I am against the unstandardized charter schools some Republicans are wanting to divert public ed funding in MN). As someone who has now attended and graduated from three different types of college/univ I can say that each has given me a unique understanding of important ideas in learning. I have tried to bring some of this diversity and a more interactive teaching style into my TCM counseling class where it is unique for these students. Some seem to deal well with it and others seem lost or overly reliant on the rote style. I can only say that including more interactive media and an " open " style is the most beneficial and tends to be the hardest to accomplish. Kind of like the difference in the two political parties. It is easy to be a Republican (likes absolutes) but not so easy to be a Democrat (sees the universe in more of its complexity). I appreciate hearing about new ideas and ways to begin to create computer learning and even distance learning formats for some of the coursework. Keep up the good stuff. Thanks Mike W. Bowser, L Ac >Marnae Ergil <marnae > > >Re: those who can't, teach >Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:55:39 -0400 > >ANd thus the abysmal state of public education in this country. You >can't get hired without a teaching certificate (even if you have a >Ph.D). But I think that this statement about those who can't, teach, >applies less to graduate education where most teachers have to show that >they " can " before they get to teach. > >Marnae > >At 12:27 PM 8/2/2005, you wrote: > >A slam against PS teachers from NY times at http://www.nytimes.com/ > >2005/07/31/education/edlife/hartocollis31.html? > >pagewanted=3 & ei=5070 & en=b138d54e45cf77d6 & ex=1123473600 & emc=eta1 > > > > No wonder our students have so little respect for us. They have > >no prior experience that would suggest otherwise. > > > >For at least a decade, students who intend to major in education have > >had among the lowest SAT scores of all college-bound seniors - in > >2004, they ranked 19th of 22 intended majors, two points in combined > >verbal and math scores below those who planned to major in > >agriculture. Even " undecided " ranked higher. And according to the > >American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research, those who > >leave the profession during their first few years have higher scores > >than those who stay. An institute report also shows that the weaker > >the undergraduate college, the more likely its students will end up > >teaching as a career. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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