Guest guest Posted August 2, 2005 Report Share Posted August 2, 2005 It is interesting that all this recent discussion about how to make money in practice by convincing people to buy stuff you think they need happened to coincide with my receiving a current issue of the American Journal of Law and Medicine (AJLM), which featured articles on dietary supplements and one defining quackery in America. Thank you Dave, I doubt this was your intended effect. I was in private practice for about nine years, mostly in Oregon in clinics I owned and operated. I was primarily an herbalist and prided myself on not having patients visit me unless it was necessary. So I passed on a lot of weekly consult fees and often depended on making a substantial product sale if a patient called for a refill or came for a monthly visit. I needed to gross about $100 in herb sales monthly to each patient to barely justify my time. But I was pleased that I did not have to see 4-6 patients per hour. Now we have heard some praise for naturos and chiros in marketing themselves and their products. I have actually heard ten times as much scorn for these same activities in mainstream circles, but lets set that aside for the moment. The article on quackery in AJLM is not at condemnatory of the practices of chiro, TCM or naturo. It notes that many medical procedures are unproven and that the failings of modern medicine have created the same void that spurred the first round of revolt against the medical establishment in the age of bloodletting before the germ theory of disease had its few great successes (which must not be underestimated - public health measures conceived as a result certainly saved far more lives than we ever will). It does however draw attention to the very dubious nature of those who write the prescriptions also selling the goods. The reason is clear. Their is strong motivation to sell lots of stuff, which may or may not be necessary. We can claim that we would never do that because we are ethical, but I can tell you that a bug on the wall watching this debate would be fully justified in being suspicious. I had hoped that some system would develop over the years to supplant office based pharmacies and health fair recruiting but that never came to pass and from what I read and what I know, it never will. You can't make a living unless you sell lots of stuff or see lots of patients, preferably both. Books and seminars on how to do these things are quite popular. Now, its reassuring to know that it is not considered quackery to practice a form of medicine one earnestly believes in. But it is also sobering to realize that MDs are forbidden to operate pharmacies or sell drug products from their offices. NDs likewise are officially advised against this practice by their own code of ethics published by the AANP (but when there is no law and money is to be made, there goes the ethics). So what a bind. No sense being in this field if you can't sell stuff, yet the temptation to sell unnecessary stuff to either pay the bills or get rich is probably too much to bear for some or even many. So if every conversation is a sales pitch, then the premise is that every person you meet needs your services. In other words, they would all be immensely better off with weekly acupuncture and this pill or that potion daily. Now the dividing line between a quack, charlatan and huckster and just someone who practices an unorthodox form of medicine is whether they know they are committing fraud. In other words, do you know for sure that what you are selling will really make much of a difference in the long run. The answer would have to be no. Consider a substance that is very well researched. Coenzyme Q. We all should probably take it if we want a few more good years of life and less likelihood of disease. But even if you take really good Coq and lots of other good stuff, there is certainly no evidence that it will lengthen your life. It may prevent some chronic illnesses, but the only thing we know for sure is that it treats angina pretty well. I used to like to sell it to my patients back in the day. You could make a strong case and it was quite expensive. A 150 mg daily dose could cost the patient 75-100 per month just for the one pill a day. However back then I never would have dropped the cash to take it myself. I was pretty convinced by the research, but I still considered it a luxury for some of my richer patients. Now its cheap and I take it every day, but only a superior conman could have gotten me working extra hours to afford my Coq fix. But that means that the whole enterprise is somewhat speculative. Informed consent of the patient is letting them know that much of this is all speculation. Metagenics makes good products and has good literature with good peer reviewed research. But most of that research is only suggestive of possible benefits based upon observed mechanisms. For example, the immune stimulating polysaccharides in certain mushrooms are not active in small doses and not active at all in alcohol extracts, yet this is a talking point that one might hear from a sales rep. Sales reps cannot define the meaning of the research and none of you should let them. It is your ethical obligation to sort through the data before making claims to just make a sale. I always let patients know that most TCM is not proven by clinical research but rather by history. I can make a strong case using both history and science, but I would never lie and say otherwise to make a sale. And I certainly would not claim to successfully treat illnesses that I have observed to have very poor responses to TCM (chronic tinnitus and significant hypertension, for example). In fact, as I have mentioned many times recently, I think the only response from TCM that is pretty reliable is noniatrogenic relief of symptoms. That really is a powerful selling point, but it does depend on something different than good sales pitch. You need to deliver the goods. If you can convince someone to take a pill for years (and if you are lucky, they buy it from you instead of the internet that whole time - good luck), that is impressive. You don't really need to show any results any time soon. Just take my pill forever and you get some reward someday for your expense. But if your focus is relieving symptoms, you have about a week or two to put up or shut up. Now that's not a good way to insure continual cash flow, but it is ethical. Or is it? If you truly believe by the preponderance of the evidence that the pill will do the trick if you just keep taking it, then it would be unethical to not recommend it. So you gotta ask yourself, do you believe or are you just making a sale. If its the latter, that type of behavior will certainly be the demise of us just as it was the demise of the patent med industry of the past. And of course, it all hinges on what western does. The alt med movement in its current form depends to a large degree on WM sucking in every way. If WM stops sucking, there is going to be a renewed attack on so-called unproven remedies and history suggests it will succeed. So we need to check our ethics now and also consider how we will position ourselves if WM succeeds. Remember no scientist thought WM would ever amount to anything in the days of Benjamin Rush. They knew it was an idiotic enterprise. It might be odd to realize that medicine was not considered to be associated with science until the later 19th century. Chinese Herbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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