Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 I guess the term allopathy is drifting to a description of conventional biomedicine. I learned it as the applicaiton of the 'law of opposites' verses that of homeopathy, which employed the 'law of similars.' Based on this thought, much of TCM is allopathic. Dictionary definition of allopathy The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition Copyright © 2004, 2000 by _Houghton Mifflin Company_ (http://www.answers.com/ main/Record2?a=NR & url=http://www.eref-trade.hmco.com/) . al·lop·a·thy (É™-lÅp'É™-thÄ“) n. A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects different from those caused by the disease itself. [German Allopathie : Greek allos, other; see _allo–_ (http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=22c0find9j4au?method=4 & dsid=1555\ & dekey=A0213600 & gwp=8 & c urtab=1555_1 & sbid=lc01a) + Greek patheia, suffering; see _–pathy_ (http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=22c0find9j4au?method=4 & dsid=1555\ & dekey=P0 112300 & gwp=8 & curtab=1555_1 & sbid=lc01a) .] A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects antagonistic to those caused by the disease itself. Will references to controlled clinical research that compared the results of allopathic-style use of Chinese herbal formulas to individually tailored formulas based on the bian-zheng patterns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2005 Report Share Posted August 26, 2005 Thank you Will! I have been saying this for years to all of my classes and finally got tired of it. Indeed, Allopathy is a term coined by Homeopaths to describe medicine that treated disease through use of opposites rather than likes. FOr example, treating heat with cold. So indded, much of TCM is allopathic. Unfortunately, almost no one seems to know this - even physicians refer to themselves as allopaths as a way of distinguishing themselves from us. Ah well!!! Marnae At 09:41 AM 8/26/2005, you wrote: > >I guess the term allopathy is drifting to a description of conventional >biomedicine. I learned it as the applicaiton of the 'law of opposites' >verses >that of homeopathy, which employed the 'law of similars.' Based on this >thought, >much of TCM is allopathic. > >Dictionary definition of allopathy >The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition >Copyright © 2004, 2000 by _Houghton Mifflin Company_ (http://www.answers.com/ >main/Record2?a=NR & url=http://www.eref-trade.hmco.com/) . > >al·lop·a·thy (É™-lÅp'É™-thÄ“) >n. >A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects different >from those caused by the disease itself. >[German Allopathie : Greek allos, other; see _allo_ >(http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=22c0find9j4au?method=4 & dsid=155\ 5 & dekey=A0213600 & gwp=8 & c >urtab=1555_1 & sbid=lc01a) + Greek patheia, suffering; see _patthy_ >(http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jsessionid=22c0find9j4au?method=4 & dsid=155\ 5 & dekey=P0 >112300 & gwp=8 & curtab=1555_1 & sbid=lc01a) .] >A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects antagonistic >to those caused by the disease itself. >Will >references to >controlled clinical research that compared the results of allopathic-style >use of Chinese herbal formulas to individually tailored formulas based on >the bian-zheng patterns. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Hi all, I just have a couple of questions. Firstly, In regards to the superfatting thread, I make CP soap by first running all the oils thru a lye calculator (incl. superfatting oils) and then doing a lye discount from that. All I do is add the superfatting oils at trace because it apparently helps retain the " live " qualities of the oils. What I am getting from this thread is that it doesnt matter what time you put the oils in, the live qualities aren't kept because it all becomes saponified. . . i thought trace was an early saponification reaction, so if you add anything after trace it will help retain the live qualities and not get AS mixed into the soap as it would if you add the oils BEFORE the lye is added. (I hope I am making sense) Now, if i were to do HP soap, and COOK the oils to speed along saponification, then add my superfatting oils after the cook , would that actually retain their live qualities? This is what I am gathering from the post, if anyone can please enlighten me that would be great. I have never done HP (except rebatching), but my soaps are about quality and if making CP isn't going the keep the " live " qualities, then I might give HP a try. Second question. Oh, I can't remember the second question now! LOL Oh well, I will make sure to pipe up when and if I do remember again. Thanks guys Justine Perth WA (western australia, not washington LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 Justine, I am an HPer. After trying just about all methods of soaping, HP is my preferred method. After cooking the oils/butters/lye/liquid, you have soap . . .. I then can add yogurt, heavy cream, and any oil I choose to give it that little extra " umph " I have come to love. I know many make superior CP soap . .. . maybe by increasing the % superfat. . . . but then you really do not control WHICH oil/fat/butter is in that %. Which is why I like HP. I add what I want to be the superfat at the end. I do 5% . . . not including the oils, etc., I add after the cook.. Like I said, I have tried about all methods but this is still my preference. -Helen Now, if i were to do HP soap, and COOK the oils to speed along saponification, then add my superfatting oils after the cook , would that actually retain their live qualities? This is what I am gathering from the post, if anyone can please enlighten me that would be great. I have never done HP (except rebatching), but my soaps are about quality and if making CP isn't going the keep the " live " qualities, then I might give HP a try. Justine Perth WA (western australia, not washington LOL) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 31, 2006 Report Share Posted March 31, 2006 in CP soap, it can take anywhere from 24 to 48 hours for sapofication to be complete. Using any form of hot processing speeds this process along. It doesn't matter when you add the oils because the lye can't tell one oil from another. Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away .................... What I am getting from this thread is that it doesnt matter what time you put the oils in, the live qualities aren't kept because it all becomes saponified. . . i thought trace was an early saponification reaction, so if you add anything after trace it will help retain the live qualities and not get AS mixed into the soap as it would if you add the oils BEFORE the lye is added. (I hope I am making sense)............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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