The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

September 29, 2005

>

> On Behalf Of

> Thursday, September 29, 2005 10:02 PM

>

> Re: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

>

> But if you are saying that Chinese used the

> concept of vibration is some real theapetic way, then this is useful, but

> should be explained. If you say is rooted in energy

> vortices, then fine. But Vibration Orr energy vortice must be defined and

> then showed how the Chinese actually used this concept.

> >>>>

> Jason

> the only thing i can think of is sound used in qi gong therapies

Yes I have heard this goes back quite far, but I get the impression that is

not what Mike et al are talking about, or are they?

-Jason

>

> Oakland, CA 94609

>

September 30, 2005

, " " <@c...>

wrote:

>

> I always find it convenient that when some idea that is not documented

> anywhere is claimed to come from an oral tradition, or whatever. I don't

> discount oral traditions, but am skeptical of concepts or usages that not

> only sound odd, but are just not found anywhere else. But that is just me.

I am with you, brother. Glad to see someone holding the mantle. fight the good

fight. its

all that remains to prevent the total degeneration of the actual tradition. We

can't just

discount oral traditions, but consider carefully whether the ancient chinese

could have

actually conceived an idea. As I understand it, concepts like energy and

vortices are

derived from modern physics and were completely unknown in any fashion to the

ancients.

ideas that sound similar must then be the product of modern minds looking

backwards

and extrapolating, rather than a true discovery of what the ancients thought

(this applies

to most of the mystical and jungian BS, as well). I would go even further and

say that

unless you at least read chinese and have read extensively, you may be a good

herbalist,

but you (like me) have no clue what was really on the minds of these ancient

docs. That is

why I always deferred to scholars and consensus in my teaching and practice.

And to go

even further, it may be unethical to practice even valid but idiosyncratic

traditions when

effective but perhaps more mundane approaches are much better documented. There

will

be a time when violating a reasonable standard of care in TCM will have legal

ramifications. So don't be gulled by the arcane and unusual and if so, know that

you do so

at the peril of yourself and your patients.

September 30, 2005

>

> On Behalf Of mike Bowser

> Friday, September 30, 2005 6:29 AM

>

> Re: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

>

> Sound, color, even food all have frequency and have been associated with

> the

> Chinese five phases. This particular set of theories, I think, is more

> closely related to physics due to these interconnections.

>

> On the treatment side you have the various cycles and even needle and moxa

> usage. Yes, these have frequencies as well. The Infra-red given off by

> moxa has been used in many types of therapies from IR saunas to healthcare

> devices. I think we should have a more open mind about how things work in

> this universe and not remain so conservative in thought.

Mike,

Just to let you know, I and probably most people on here, are from

conservative. Trust me I am open to any method of healing that can get

people better. I am open to integrating modern ideas of physics, western

medicine, homeopathic medicine into our healing. But this is a big

difference than saying the Chinese have been using these ideas for 2000

years. It is not about looking for a word, but how they conceptualized

healing and the world, past and present. I see too many times people just

MSUing, claiming it is some ancient tradition. Well maybe or maybe not, I

would like to see some evidence when one makes such claims. I see great

harm for the profession and even students understanding and learning CM by

integrating such concepts (and words) haphazardly into the CM vocabulary and

treatment modalities. Unless I missed some post, no evidence is present to

date, just vagueness.

So you say moxa and needle are all frequencies. Ok.. but to me this is just

mumbo jumbo. What does it really mean? What does viewing a needle as a

frequency mean? How does this inform your treatment? Again I doubt the

Chinese had any concept of this, but I could be wrong. But like I said

before if you are just saying everything in this universe has different

frequencies (via modern physics) then fine, but I can not see how viewing

things in this manner impacts on how this helps our healing.

So it is not about being conservative or closed to such ideas, it is about

representing some set of 'truth'. Because I don't buy that Chinese thought

of healing with energy vortices and frequencies has nothing to do with

conservatism. This is a CM herbalist discussion board. As real as auras may

be, by saying that huang qi enters the yellow part of aura and can clean out

any past life traums, is just not CM. Hey it may be true, but representing

CM in this manner does us no good to further our profession. Same is said

for energy vortices. Hey I am as open to the vibrational man as the next

guy, but no one has defined anything. No has explained really what this

means from a CM perspective. I am waiting for something more than just

parroting (ripping off) concepts from modern physics.

-

If we only seek

> an

> absoloute word for this then we miss the bigger picture. There are

> already

> too many conservative zealots out there, lets not add anymore. It tends

> to

> get in the way of good practice.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> > " " <alonmarcus

> >

> >Re: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

> >Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:01:59 -0700

> >

> >But if you are saying that Chinese used the

> >concept of vibration is some real theapetic way, then this is useful, but

> >should be explained. If you say is rooted in energy

> >vortices, then fine. But Vibration Orr energy vortice must be defined

> and

> >then showed how the Chinese actually used this concept.

> > >>>>

> >Jason

> >the only thing i can think of is sound used in qi gong therapies

> >

> >Oakland, CA 94609

> >

September 30, 2005

>

> On Behalf Of mike Bowser

> Friday, September 30, 2005 6:43 AM

>

> RE: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

>

> Jason,

>

> It sounds like we need to go back to square one here. The universe is

> made

> up of vibrations and this is not a newagey idea but one that is grounded

> in

> modern physics. Just because you do not like it does not make it so. The

> movement of energetic matter is observed in the concepts of yin and yang.

>

> Second, from this concept one can see that the ancient peoples did

> recognize

> the interconnections or mirror of the greater universe within the smaller

> internal one as being the same. At least that concept was part of my

> education, not too sure what everyone else received. As a scholar of CM,

> I

> would expect that you would have many more examples of this then me but I

> can easily come up with more.

>

> In passing, I am curious why we tend to accept the inclusion of WM into

> TCM

> more so than we accept physics?

I will tell you - Because western medicine is medicine. Has an immense

amount of potential to heal. Physics are ideas on how our universe works.

Does physics really have much more to offer the healing of our patients? Ha

ha - Show me where. All I have heard are a couple a rip-off phrases from

something like 'the dao of physics' - Which BTW is riddled with errors. You

may like to explain your work to your patients with these new-age / physics

terms and they may say " yeah man, right on " - and everyone is happy. But

show me where your practice is directly changed by our understanding of

quantum physics... Actually western medicine probably benefits way more from

our modern understandings. That is enough, this is silly...

-

Physics has much more to offer us but

> maybe

> it is because we lack education or maybe we do not see the strong WM

> influence already in TCM. Thanks for the chat.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

> Jaso

>

> > " "

> >

> >RE: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

> >Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:54:55 -0600

> >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of mike Bowser

> > > Thursday, September 29, 2005 9:30 PM

> > >

> > > RE: Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

> > >

> > > Jason,

> > >

> > > I am a little concerned and confused as to why the reluctance to see

> >both

> > > the connection and importance of vibrations in ancient theory. This

> is

> > > not

> > > a sign of drug induced psychosis.

> > >

> > > They might not have stated the word exactly as we would have liked but

> > > they

> > > knew of it when it was lacking, stagnant or even how to use it in

> > > treatment.

> > > While the idea of a certain term might not be accurate, the hidden

> >side

> > > of

> > > this is that they knew about it. Many things of the past were hidden

> >for

> > > a

> > > reason and much knowledge came thru lineages related to families.

> >

> >I always find it convenient that when some idea that is not documented

> >anywhere is claimed to come from an oral tradition, or whatever. I don't

> >discount oral traditions, but am skeptical of concepts or usages that not

> >only sound odd, but are just not found anywhere else. But that is just

> me.

> >I personally stick to the mounds and mounds and volumes and volumes of

> >recorded information. But before I invest in some idea like the yang-wei

> >corresponds to the aura or the foundation of CM are energy vortices or

> >whatever, you are going to have to do a lot of convincing. You say

> ancient

> >theory relies on vibrations (or whatever) - What are you talking about?

> >What does that mean? How do you define vibrations. Hey if you just mean

> >everything in the universe is some vibration therefore everything is

> >vibration, fine, but this IMO it is so vague and newagey I don't even

> know

> >what to do with it. You may want to start putting homeopathics at those

> >specific vibrations on acu points or something, and that is all fine, but

> >let us be clear this is not CM. But if you are saying that Chinese used

> >the

> >concept of vibration is some real theapetic way, then this is useful, but

> >should be explained. If you say is rooted in energy

> >vortices, then fine. But Vibration Orr energy vortice must be defined

> and

> >then showed how the Chinese actually used this concept.

> >So if you feel like putting the effort in, I would like to see a solid

> >argument on the connection and importance of vibrations in ancient

theory.

> >This, to be worthwhile, would have to have some source. That source

> would

> >have to be some words, so we can discuss such an issue. Granted it is

> not

> >clear exactly what is being said in classical texts, there is in general

> >much debate. But the point is, there is debate, and people formulate

> well

> >laid out arguments based on the texts. At least to convince me of such

> >ideas you will have to do more than vague mentions, or claim oral

> >tradition.

> >But that is just me. So if they knew of these concepts please educate me.

> >

> >-

> >

> Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including

> board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a

> free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

>

September 30, 2005

Mike,

I am not trying to be disrespectful, because I appreciate your

enthusiasm about physics. I've also read many books about physics,

quantum reality, etc., but at the end of the day, physics is a very

complex discipline and difficult venture indeed. It is equally

complex, if not more so, as Chinese medicine if not more so, so in

order to understand the interface of Chinese medicine and physics, we

need to engage physicists with an open mind who also have a working

understanding of Chinese medicine. Very difficult to find at this

point. I've been looking for years.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 5:43 AM, mike Bowser wrote:

> Jason,

>

> It sounds like we need to go back to square one here. The universe

> is made

> up of vibrations and this is not a newagey idea but one that is

> grounded in

> modern physics. Just because you do not like it does not make it

> so. The

> movement of energetic matter is observed in the concepts of yin and

> yang.

>

> Second, from this concept one can see that the ancient peoples did

> recognize

> the interconnections or mirror of the greater universe within the

> smaller

> internal one as being the same. At least that concept was part of my

> education, not too sure what everyone else received. As a scholar

> of CM, I

> would expect that you would have many more examples of this then me

> but I

> can easily come up with more.

>

> In passing, I am curious why we tend to accept the inclusion of WM

> into TCM

> more so than we accept physics? Physics has much more to offer us

> but maybe

> it is because we lack education or maybe we do not see the strong WM

> influence already in TCM. Thanks for the chat.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

September 30, 2005

>

> On Behalf Of

> Friday, September 30, 2005 7:47 AM

>

> Re: The Shang Han Lun and Homotoxicology

>

> , " " <@c...>

> wrote:

>

> >

> > I always find it convenient that when some idea that is not documented

> > anywhere is claimed to come from an oral tradition, or whatever. I

> don't

> > discount oral traditions, but am skeptical of concepts or usages that

> not

> > only sound odd, but are just not found anywhere else. But that is just

> me.

>

> I am with you, brother. Glad to see someone holding the mantle. fight

> the good fight. its

> all that remains to prevent the total degeneration of the actual

tradition.

> We can't just

> discount oral traditions, but consider carefully whether the ancient

> chinese could have

> actually conceived an idea. As I understand it, concepts like energy and

> vortices are

> derived from modern physics and were completely unknown in any fashion to

> the ancients.

> ideas that sound similar must then be the product of modern minds looking

> backwards

> and extrapolating, rather than a true discovery of what the ancients

> thought (this applies

> to most of the mystical and jungian BS, as well). I would go even further

> and say that

> unless you at least read chinese and have read extensively, you may be a

> good herbalist,

> but you (like me) have no clue what was really on the minds of these

> ancient docs. That is

> why I always deferred to scholars and consensus in my teaching and

> practice. And to go

> even further, it may be unethical to practice even valid but idiosyncratic

> traditions when

> effective but perhaps more mundane approaches are much better documented.

Hear Hear... This is a great point! Most of the time when people are

talking energy vortices etc. they actually have very limited CM knowledge.

They grasp for peripheral straws instead of studying CM deeper and actually

learn something that has been around for 1000 years. Of course they feel

special because they are integrating 'modern physics'. Sounds good on

paper. But many such treatment methods (from the unrooted, pseudo-science)

has no basis in CM and probably BS all around. I think it is only

responsible to CM and one's patients to thoroughly research what CM says

past and present, know the theories inside and out, study & practice

extensively for years, read Chinese etc, before making up or integrating in

such theories. Spouting off on what the Chinese thought 2000 years takes a

lot of kahunas. One should back up there claims. This is science, this is

medicine. But when one branches out without a firm foundation of what is

really said and practiced in CM, then there is a disconnect, and the

medicine suffers on many levels. The turtle wins the race.

-

September 30, 2005

Fritjov Capra, of course I know about. He actually was critical of

some aspects of Chinese medicine in one of his books, although he

definitely is a supporter of it. The part in " Tao of Physics " I

enjoyed the most was his description of Niels Bohr's coat of arms,

which had the yin/yang symbol.

I also have several books such as " DNA and the I Ching " , " Book of

Changes and Traditional " that give some interesting

parallels between physics and Chinese medicine. I also spent time

visiting with Stuart Kauffman, author of " At Home in the Universe " , a

complexity scientist, in Santa Fe a few years ago. He was very

interested in Chinese medicine, but strongly discounted parallels

between Yi Jing theory and complexity theory.

All I am saying is that in order to take any of this physics/Chinese

medicine interface seriously, we need people to do serious work, not

just generalities. I think most people tend to draw conclusions too

quickly when comparing physics to other disciplines, usually artistic

ones.

There is a healthy balance of embracing and skepticism that needs to

be maintained. One extreme leads to close-mindedness, the other to

blurring the boundaries between fields of knowledge.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 3:36 PM, mike Bowser wrote:

> Zev,

>

> Two names come to mind. The first is that of Fritjof Capra " Tao of

> Physics "

> and other is Yin Lo " Biophysics Basis for Acupuncture and Health " .

> I have

> had contact with Dr. Lo and seems to be very willing to share his

> ideas with

> the profession. I think he is a faculty with AUCM out of L A.

>

> I think that it might be a good idea to recommend coursework for

> future OM

> graduates to have taken.

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

September 30, 2005

M'boy, I've got enough to do to last me the next two years. Can't

take on anything else right now.

On Sep 30, 2005, at 4:14 PM, mike Bowser wrote:

> Zev,

>

> So what areas of research are you proposing and how would you go

> about it?

>

> Mike W. Bowser, L Ac

>

September 30, 2005

Z'ev, and Mike,

The work done by WK WANG and his research team might be interesting to you.

WANG got his PhD in Biophysics from Johns Hopkins and spent almost 20 years

researching pulse.

These are pretty serious research with resonance model behind it.

I am attaching some of the abstracts here.

Enjoy!

Mike L.

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IEEE Trans Biomed Eng. 2004 Jan;51(1):193-5. Related Articles, Links

Comment in:

IEEE Trans Biomed Eng. 2004 Jan;51(1):196-7.

The natural frequencies of the arterial system and their relation to the heart

rate.

Lin Wang YY, Jan MY, Shyu CS, Chiang CA, Wang WK.

Department of Physics, National Taiwan Normal University, no. 88, Sec. 4,

Ting-Chou Rd., Taipei 116, Taiwan. yuhying

We assume the major function of the arterial system is transporting energy via

its transverse vibration to facilitate the blood flowing all the way down to the

microcirculation. A highly efficient system is related to maintaining a large

pressure pulse along the artery for a given ventricular power. The arterial

system is described as a composition of many infinitesimal Windkessels. The

strong tethering in the longitudinal direction connects all the Windkessels

together and makes them vibrate in coupled modes. It was assumed that at rest

condition, the arterial system is in a steady distributed oscillatory state,

which is the superposition of many harmonic modes of the transverse vibration in

the arterial wall and the adherent blood. Every vibration mode has its own

characteristic frequency, which depends on the geometry, the mass density, the

elasticity, and the tethering of the arterial system. If the heart rate is near

the fundamental natural frequency, the system is in a good

resonance condition, we call this " frequency matching. " In this condition, the

pulsatile pressure wave is maximized. A pressure wave equation derived

previously was used to predict this fundamental frequency. The theoretical

result gave that heart rate is proportional to the average high-frequency phase

velocity of the pressure wave and the inverse of the animal body length

dimension. The area compliance related to the efficiency of the circulatory

system is also mentioned.

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Pacing Clin Electrophysiol. 2003 Jan;26(1 Pt 1):36-43. Related Articles, Links

Influencing the heart rate of rats with weak external mechanical stimulation.

Hsiu H, Jan MY, Wang YY, Wang WK.

Department of Electric Engineering, National Taiwan University, Taipei, Taiwan.

The ventricular-arterial coupling is assumed to minimize the expenditure of

cardiac energy. From the conjecture of the resonance theory, the arterial system

transmits pressure waves and resonates with the heartbeat, therefore, the

arterial system is similar to a mechanical resonator. Theoretically, the heart

rate can be paced with weak external mechanical stimulation and corresponding

blood pressure changes can be observed. A waterbed was activated to generate

0.5-mmHg pressure vibrations as a stimulus and the rate was set to deviate 5%

from the control heart rate. Among 13 studies on seven rats, the linear

regression between X (stimulation frequency--control heart rate) and Y (actual

changes of the heart rate) is Y = 0.992X = 0.062 (Hz) with a correlation

coefficient of 0.97 (Y = X implies complete steering). The intercorrelation

coefficient between the change in mean blood pressure and the heart rate was

0.79. The study showed that this weak mechanical stimulation influences the

heart rate, and the blood pressure changes according to the heart rate.

Cardiovascular optimization and the resonance theory may explain the way one may

regulate the heart rate and the blood pressure of humans noninvasively in the

future.

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Acta Pharmacol Sin. 2003 Feb;24(2):145-51. Related Articles, Links

Evaluation of herbal formulas by pulse analysis method.

Wang WK, Hsu TL, Bau JG, Wang-Lin YY.

Biophysics Laboratory, Institute of Physics, Academia Sinica, Nankang, Taipei,

Taiwan 11529, China.

AIM: To distinguish the component difference between two similar herbal formulas

by pulse analysis method. Many Chinese herbs were found to have specific effects

on the Fourier components of the blood pressure pulse; it might infer a specific

blood redistribution process on the body and reflect the health conditions of

specific organs or tissues. The pulse effect of an herbal formula was similar to

the linear combination of all its herbal compositions. METHODS: Two different

versions of the herbal formula Liu-Wei-Dihuang were fed to the Wistar rats as a

single blind test. The blood pressure pulses on the rat tail artery were

recorded and then transformed to the frequency domain by Fourier analyzer.

RESULTS: Formula A, Bai-Wei-Dihuang, with two more herbs Cortex Cinnamomi and

Radix Aconiti added to Liu-Wei-Dihuang, increased the harmonic proportion of the

1st harmonic (C1) but decreased C4, C5. Formula B is composed in the same way

but without Rhizoma Batatatis and Poria cocos; it

increased the DC of the pulse spectrum (C0), but decreased C2, C3, C4, C5, C6.

CONCLUSION: The component adjustment of an herbal formula could be distinctly

and quantitatively detected by pulse analysis method.

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Am J Chin Med. 2000;28(2):279-89. Related Articles, Links

Influence of spleen meridian herbs on the harmonic spectrum of the arterial

pulse.

Wang WK, Bau JG, Hsu TL, Wang YY.

Biophysics Lab, Institute of Physics, Academia Sinica, Nankang, Taipei, Taiwan.

Pulse analysis is a powerful method in Chinese medicine. We suggest that the

effect of herbal medicine is to redistribute the blood to organs and meridians.

In this report, by injecting extracts into rats and then analyzing the blood

pressure wave measured at the caudate arteries, we studied eight important

spleen meridian related herbs: They were Semen Lablab, Fructus Amomi Globosi,

Rhizoma Atractylodis Macrocephalae, Rhizoma Atractylodis, Tuber Pinelliae, Radix

Codonopsitis, Pericarpium Aurantii and Rhizoma Polygonati. All eight herbs

increased the intensity of the 3rd harmonic (C3) of the pressure pulse which is

correlated to the spleen and spleen meridian, as described in traditional

Chinese medical literature. All of them also increased the 2nd harmonic (which

is correlated to the kidney and the kidney meridian) as well as decreased the

heart load (DC term of pressure wave, C0). Tuber Pinelliae, Radix Codonopsitis,

Pericarpium Aurantii and Rhizoma Polygonati decreased the 1st

harmonic (correlated to the liver meridian) significantly, while Rhizoma

Atractylodis Macrocephalae only decreased C1 slightly. Except for Semen Lablab,

all the others decreased the intensity of the 5th (stomach meridian) and the 7th

harmonics. The effects of kidney herbs: Cortex Eucommiae and Radix Achyranthis

were also shown for comparison.

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IEEE Eng Med Biol Mag. 2000 May-Jun;19(3):106-11. Related Articles, Links

The importance of pulsatile microcirculation in relation to hypertension.

Jan MY, Hsiu H, Hsu TL, Wang YY, Wang WK.

Department of Electrical Engineering, National Taiwan University.

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IEEE Trans Biomed Eng. 2000 Mar;47(3):313-8. Related Articles, Links

Effect of length on the fundamental resonance frequency of arterial models

having radial dilatation.

Wang YY, Lia WC, Hsiu H, Jan MY, Wang WK.

Department of Physics, National Taiwan Normal University, Taipei, R.O.C.

wkwang

The pressure wave moving along an elastic artery filled with blood was examined

as a moving Windkessel having a natural oscillation angular frequency nu 0 and a

damping coefficient b. The radial directional motion for an element of the wall

segment and the adherent fluid was considered. This equation was solved with

conditions at both ends of an artery of length L. An external impulse force was

applied at one end and a static pressure Po at the other. Analytic solution

allowed only certain oscillation modes of resonance frequencies fn, where fn2 =

a + cnL-2 with [formula: see text] and V infinity is the high frequency phase

velocity. The relationship between f0 and L was examined experimentally for

tubes constructed of latex, rubber, or dissected aorta. The effect of raising

the static pressure P0 or increasing the tension in the tube was consistent with

the prediction. The hypertension that accompanies an augmentation in arterial

wall and the association between the heart rate and

the mean blood pressure were discussed.

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IEEE Eng Med Biol Mag. 1999 Jan-Feb;18(1):73-5. Related Articles, Links

Pulse analysis of patients with severe liver problems. Studying pulse spectrums

to determine the effects on other organs.

Lu WA, Wang YY, Wang WK.

Department of Electrical Engineering, National Taiwan University.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

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Am J Chin Med. 1998;26(1):73-82. Related Articles, Links

Liu-wei-dihuang: a study by pulse analysis.

Wang WK, Hsu TL, Wang YY.

Biophysics Laboratory, Academia Sinica, Taipei, Taiwan.

Pulse analysis method was used in studying the traditional Chinese formula

Liu-Wei-Dihuang as well as five of its main components (Rehmannia glutinosa,

Cornus officinalis, Paeonia Suffruticosa, Poria cocos and Alisma

plantogo-aquatica var oriental). Based on our recently developed resonance

theory, we tried to elucidate the mechanism and mutual reactions of these

meridian related herbs. Hot water herbal extracts were injected

intraperitoneally into rats and the pressure pulse spectrum at the caudate

artery was measured. The results of this study indicated that Liu-Wei-Dihuang

mildly increased blood flow to meridians with lower resonance frequency: namely

the liver C1, the kidney C2 and the spleen C3; but decreased blood flow to the

higher resonance frequency organs and meridians: the lung C4, the stomach C5,

the gall bladder C6, and the bladder C7. It also decreased the heart load C0.

All of the five herb components increased blood flow to the kidney C2 and the

spleen C3; but their

effects on the high frequency organs varied. Alisma plantogo-aquatica var.

oriental decreased the C0, C5, C6, C7; Poria cocos decreased C1, C4, C5, C6;

Rehmannia glutinosa, Paeonia Suffruticosa decreased C0, C4, C5, C6, C7; Cornus

officinalis increased C4 but decreased C0, C5, C6, C7.

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Am J Chin Med. 1997;25(3-4):357-66. Related Articles, Links

Pulse spectrum study on the effect of sie-zie-tang and Radix aconiti.

Wang WK, Hsu TL, Chiang Y, Wang YY.

Biophysics Laboratory, Academia Sinica, Taipei, Taiwan.

Extracts of the traditional Chinese formula Sie-Zie-Tang as well as one of its

main components, Radix Aconiti were injected into rats intraperitoneally to

observe pressure wave spectrum changes at the caudate artery. We found that

Radix Aconiti decreased the C0 (DC term of the pulse), C5 and C6 (the harmonic

proportions of the 5th and the 6th harmonic), but increased C2 and C3 (the

harmonic proportions of the second and the third harmonic) significantly. For

Sie-Zie-Tang, the increases of C2, C3, and C4 were accompanied by the decreasing

of C0. The decreases of C5, C6 were small and not significant. The additional

ingredients in the formula reduce toxic side effects (arrhythmia or heart

failure caused by faster and stronger heart beat) due to Radix Aconiti. For

human subjects, low dose Sie-Zie-Tang tends to normalize the Fourier components

of the pressure wave. Orally taking the formula elevates the harmonic proportion

of the harmonic that is lower than normal, but suppresses the

higher one. Our results provides a possible mechanism for heart meridian

related herbs. It strengthens heart beats, and normalizes energy distribution to

different meridians. The study on Sie-Zie-Tang reveals another formula

construction to reduce toxic side effects.

Publication Types:

Clinical Trial

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IEEE Eng Med Biol Mag. 1997 Jan-Feb;16(1):51-6. Related Articles, Links

Pressure wave propagation in arteries. A model with radial dilatation for

simulating the behavior of a real artery.

Wang YY, Chang CC, Chen JC, Hsiu H, Wang WK.

Dept. of Physics, National Taiwan Normal University, Taipei.

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The importance of pulsatile microcirculation in relation to hypertension

Ming-Yie Jan Hsin Hsiu Tse-Lin Hsu Yuh-Ying Lin Wang Wei-Kung Wang

Dept. of Electr. Eng., Nat. Taiwan Univ., Taipei ;

This paper appears in: Engineering in Medicine and Biology Magazine, IEEE

Publication May/Jun 2000

On page(s): 106-111

Volume: 19, Issue: 3

ISSN: 0739-5175

References Cited: 26

CODEN: IEMBDE

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Abstract:

The aim of the study presented was to prove that increased pulsatile blood

pressure (PBP) increases perfusion in peripheral vascular beds (PVBs). We used a

laser Doppler flowmeter (LDF) to measure surface renal cortical flux (RCF) and a

pressure-tip transducer catheter to measure abdominal aortic blood pressure

(AABP). Besides demonstrating the relationship between RCF and AABP by linear

regressive analysis with an averaged periodogram (AP), we also used time-domain

pulse averaging to clarify the pulsatile AABP and RCF. Furthermore, we define a

flux-to-pressure-area ratio (FPAR) to evaluate the efficiency by which the

pulsatile AABP drives RCF

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The natural frequencies of the arterial system and their relation to the heart

rate

Yuh-Ying Lin Wang Ming-Yie Jan Ching-Show Shyu Chi-Ang Chiang Wei-Kung Wang

Dept. of Phys., Nat. Taiwan Normal Univ., Taipei, Taiwan;

This paper appears in: Biomedical Engineering, IEEE Transactions on

Publication Jan. 2004

On page(s): 193- 195

Volume: 51, Issue: 1

ISSN: 0018-9294