re: Liver and Kidney Deficiency

[Guest guest]

Hi Young

You may have missed Bob Flaws post on this matter but liv/kid xu can include liv

Blood xu and kid jing/yang xu.

 

In reference to liver yang deficiency, there was a interesting article

specifically on this in an issue of the Journal of Chinese medicine a couple

years back.

 

regards

Heiko Lade

M.H.Sc.(TCM)

Lecturer and clinic supervisor

Auckland College of Natural Medicine

Website: www.acnm.co.nz

 

 

 

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Young Song

Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:57 PM

re: Re: Liver and Kidney Deficiency

 

 

Heiko and everybody,

Thank you for your response to my question. To clarify further, the reason I

ask is that in Bensky's <<Formulas and Strategies>>, he uses the phrase, " For

leg weakness due to Kidney and Liver deficiency, use Du Zhong, with Gou Ji, Niu

Xi [and other Yang tonics; I can't remember which ones and I don't have my book

with me]. " To me, this means that the commonly used phrase, " Kid & Liv

deficiency " , refers to predominantly Kid Yang Xu and I guess deficiency of the

Liver's Yang functions, although I have never heard of such a thing as the

latter. (???) Or, is it more like this: Kidney Yin also eventually wanes as

the Kidney Yang becomes deficient, thereby leading to Liver Yin Deficiency, ie.

Water Failing to Nourish Wood. Giovanni Macioccia describes in his " Headaches "

chapter this particular pathological process in a certain type of Liver Yang

Rising H/A, where Kid Yang Xu leads to Kid Yin Xu, which leads to Liver Yin Xu

and Liver Yang Rising. OR, does " Liv & Kid Deficiency " refer

to the straightforward Kid Yin Xu leading to Liv Yin Xu, as you suggest,

Heiko. I have seen this usage of the phrase in the appropriate context in

several texts. Also, the phrase could more specifically mean Kidney Jing and

Liver Blood Xu. So, I think it is very confusing to use that phrase. Why are

people using it when it seems that it could refer to any of the above?

 

Young Song

L.Ac., Dipl.OM

 

 

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