Guest guest Posted October 5, 2005 Report Share Posted October 5, 2005 Eric, It looks like there is at least three genera used, no? Yes, it would appear as if they are lumping them together, Viscum into the Loranthaceae. For many years now the botanist have tried to hold onto their jobs by lumping and splitting genera. (That's not entirely true as, of course, new information comes to light all the time, it just seems that way sometimes.) My personal opinion is that they should not lump these two genera together, but I'm no botanist and I'm sure that within the next decade or so they will have more definative work done on the two genera. Also, I wanted to point out that Viscum is also used in Western herbology. In fact, I believe I saw Viscum album (the species used in the West) listed in at least one CM materia medica. I have used it like sang ji sheng and it seems to work very similarly. Do you know which species we mostly see here in the West? Anyway, another example of this is sheng ma, which many of us have known as Cimicifuga, has been changed to Actea. This is actually its original genus. I find this interesting because I have been using an actea species similarly to the Cimicifuga species for quite a few years. I always knew they were closely related, now it seems closer than many had previously thought. As to the WHO project. At what stage is this project? Is there any preliminary data available. Regards, Thomas Eric said: The official species in the pharmacopeia is Taxillus chinensis (D.C.) Danser. The zhong yao da ci dian says Loranthaceae, and then goes on to distinguish by production areas as follows: Red-berried mistletoe (Viscum coloratum), China (mainly north, but also widely distributed over the south). Southern mistletoe and hairy mistletoe (Loranthus spp.), China (south of the Yangtze). It looks like they may be lumping the genera together, no? There is some controversy with drug sources vis-a-vis their official species for TCM. The PRC pharmacopeia book that has been everyone's standard may no longer continue to be the standard. I think that updating these names is part of the current tasks that the WHO commission is seeking to tackle Professor of Honolulu, HI 808-349-8219 www.herbsandmore.photostockplus.com for Good Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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