Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Marnae, I checked with Denise Hartman MD, and no, IUD¹s do not cause uterine scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just take them out and get pregnant. Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 > IUD¹s do not cause uterine scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just take them out > and get pregnant. Then why is there so much reluctance to prescribe them to women who haven't yet had children--and may want to in the future? --Sarah Rivkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 IUD's have been associated with pelvic inflammation that may lead to conditions such as ectopic pregnancy (a result of the scarring in the tubes). This book indicates that tubal pregnancies have risen five fold in the last decade as a result of IUD's, STD's, progesterone based contraception, and infection following abortions. Isn't that the 'goal' of IUD's? They inflame the uterus to create a less than ideal atmosphere for implantation? Elizabeth Davis. Heart and Hands; a Midwife's guide to pregnancy and birth. Celestial Arts, Berkeley. 2004. Jennifer Tongren, MAOM, Lic.Ac Axis Acupuncture & Chinese Herbal Medicine 263 Concord Ave. Cambridge, MA 02138 617.791.3348 On Nov 9, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Cara Frank wrote: > Marnae, > I checked with Denise Hartman MD, and no, IUD¹s do not cause > uterine > scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just take them out and get > pregnant. > > Cara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 It is probably related to older experiences with the dalkon shield. Actually they are really under utilized form of birth control. Nearly 100% effectiveness and very few complications. they can cause dysmennorhea and heavy bleeding. The mirena, which has progestin in it thins the endometrium over time, reducing bleeding. Whether or not it is absorbed into the bloodstream is an open question. Cara >> > IUD¹s do not cause uterine scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just >> take them out >> > and get pregnant. > > Then why is there so much reluctance to prescribe them to women who haven't > yet had > children--and may want to in the future? > > --Sarah Rivkin > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board > approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 I would really challenge that: I don¹t think you can lump IUD¹s with PID and STD¹s. Examine IUD¹s alone and they are usually without long term consequences. It is the copper that prevents implantation. Not uterine inflammation. they are not a good option for women who are not in a monogamous relationship. also, as a perk: women have more cervical secretions, which makes sex more- well- juicy, therefore more fun. Cara > IUD's have been associated with pelvic inflammation that may lead to > conditions such as ectopic pregnancy (a result of the scarring in the > tubes). This book indicates that tubal pregnancies have risen five > fold in the last decade as a result of IUD's, STD's, progesterone > based contraception, and infection following abortions. Isn't that > the 'goal' of IUD's? They inflame the uterus to create a less than > ideal atmosphere for implantation? > > Elizabeth Davis. Heart and Hands; a Midwife's guide to pregnancy and > birth. Celestial Arts, Berkeley. 2004. > > > Jennifer Tongren, MAOM, Lic.Ac > Axis Acupuncture & Chinese Herbal Medicine > 263 Concord Ave. > Cambridge, MA 02138 > 617.791.3348 > > > > On Nov 9, 2005, at 3:12 PM, Cara Frank wrote: > >> > Marnae, >> > I checked with Denise Hartman MD, and no, IUD¹s do not cause >> > uterine >> > scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just take them out and get >> > pregnant. >> > >> > Cara >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 Is this based on your personal experience, Cara, with your patients? On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Cara Frank wrote: > I would really challenge that: I don’t think you can lump IUD’s > with PID and > STD’s. Examine IUD’s alone and they are usually without long term > consequences. It is the copper that prevents implantation. Not uterine > inflammation. > they are not a good option for women who are not in a monogamous > relationship. > > also, as a perk: women have more cervical secretions, which makes > sex more- > well- juicy, therefore more fun. > > > Cara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 Yes. And myself. > Is this based on your personal experience, Cara, with your patients? > > > On Nov 9, 2005, at 6:45 PM, Cara Frank wrote: > >> I would really challenge that: I don‚t think you can lump IUD‚s >> with PID and >> STD‚s. Examine IUD‚s alone and they are usually without long term >> consequences. It is the copper that prevents implantation. Not uterine >> inflammation. >> they are not a good option for women who are not in a monogamous >> relationship. >> >> also, as a perk: women have more cervical secretions, which makes >> sex more- >> well- juicy, therefore more fun. >> >> >> Cara > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 > I would really challenge that: I don¹t think you can lump IUD¹s with PID and > STD¹s. But they are linked together in the medical literature. Presence of an IUD is considered a risk factor for PID. Maybe this association is more behavioral than physiological, since women with IUDs may less apt to use condoms. --Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 There are risks of pregnancy with IUD's in place, and in the past fetuses have partially developed in and around them. Years ago, there were risks of uterine perforation leading to pelvic infection - pelvic inflammatory disease. This disease frequently caused scarring of the fallopian tubes, effectively leaving women infertile. These are some of the reasons IUD's are frequently not recommended for women who want to become pregnant. They have bad press from old history - how much it still applies, I don't know. I had an IUD many years ago - the Progestasert T. The addition of progesterone regulated my periods! Suddenly they came every 28 days right on schedule, whereas before they could come anywhere between 14 and 45 days, with up to 2 weeks of flow. After I had the IUD removed, my periods remained regular but more frequent - every 24-26 days, and now that I am perimenopausal, every 26-30 days. Interesting note - I didn't notice it until after the IUD was removed, but while I had it, I had constant, low-grade uterine cramping; once the IUD was gone, I suddenly realized I wasn't in constant pain! Acupuncture and Chinese Herbal Medicine 753 N. Main Street, Suite C-1 Cottonwood, AZ 86326 (928) 274-1373 saydit <saydit wrote: > IUD¹s do not cause uterine scarring or hinder conception in anyway. Just take them out > and get pregnant. Then why is there so much reluctance to prescribe them to women who haven't yet had children--and may want to in the future? --Sarah Rivkin Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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