Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 Gu Wen: got to love it. I have a question about the meaning of the 12 character in bold below: ŸŒÜåU•—Š¦ÏãÚ•a–¬æš›óŽ¡‘æ\ˆêD This is chapter 11, section 12 of the JinGui Ž×šLŽg°‰ò•sˆÀŽÒDŒŒŸ†–çDŒŒŸ†ŽÒ›¢‰—SDSŸ† & #34395;ŽÒD‘´l‘¥ˆØD‡–Ú—~ŠáD\ –²‰“sŽ§¸_—£ŽUD°é®–ÏsD‰AŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×áŸD—zŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×‹¶D From the only two english translations I know of in print....neither shall we say are up to Wiseman/Craig/Bob/Paul standard.... " deterioration of yin qi leads to Dian and deterioration of yang qi to Kuang " " evanescence of the yin vital essence will lead to a case of insanity with emotional depression. Evanescense of the yang vital energy will result in mania " The second from the New World version pg 263 has a note from a Mr. Wu Qian... " ...this must be a copying mistake " ...it continues on to say the Neijing....but I think it should be Nanjing 20 (perhaps it was said in the neijing first....I havent read the neijing in chinese yet) Dd—zŽÒ‹¶Dd‰AŽÒ០When Yang is doubled/heavy/excess then Kuang When Yin is doubled/heavy/excess then Dian At first look ‰AŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×áŸD—zŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×‹¶: If there was a copying mistake then it follows they reversed things....it should be —zŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×áŸD‰AŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×‹¶......that would make it when yang qi decline/wanes then you have too much yin....so dian. And When Yin qi declines/wanes then you have too much yang...so Kuang.....ah yes that was clear..... However then I started to look at some explanations from some chinese texts...and this is where things get muddled for me. My chinese is at the point where I can read a classical text like Jin Gui...which has relatively little grammar and get most of the basic meaning (not the deeper...how things play out in clinic meaning). However I'm not yet at the level where i can easily look at an entire textbook with explanation in chinese with lots of modern grammar and get the whole story. If I were to really make the attempt....I could get some of the gist....but oh the time involved.to read a page....to just get the meaning of 12 whee bit characters. So I put it out to the group. Could someone whose chinese is more advanced take a look and give me an explanation in english. From the light green shanghai natl textbook fifth edition pg 123 I can get: When the yin evil is too exuberant (i love wisemanese) then its dian, yang evil too exuberant then its kuang. ‰AŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×áŸD—zŸ†ŠŽÒˆ×‹¶ This yin qi and yang qi are referring to Zheng Qi....it is said when a person's body yin qi is insufficient, then its easy for the evil to enter the yin so its dian, when yang qi is insufficient then its easy for the evil to enter the yang so its kuang. Thats why diankuang belongs excess but its root belongs to deficiency Please cut me some slack here on above chinglish transriteration..Jin Gui is the first book I am reading in Chinese. Greatly appreciative, Mark Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lot's of someone's, actually. Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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