Chinese Life Sciences: Intro Readings in CCM by Unschuld

[Guest guest]

I;m sorry if this has been brought up before, but can anyone recommend

this book to a newbie like myself?

 

http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/ChiLifSciIntRea.cfm

 

Ta,

Li

 

--

Knowing ignorance is strength; ignoring knowledge is sickness.

-Tao te ching

[Guest guest]

If what you are interested is a road into studying the classical CM

literature, I can highly recommend this text. However, basic Chinese

skills will be very useful as well.

 

 

On Mar 8, 2006, at 11:10 AM, wrote:

 

> I;m sorry if this has been brought up before, but can anyone recommend

> this book to a newbie like myself?

>

> http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/ChiLifSciIntRea.cfm

>

> Ta,

> Li

>

> --

> Knowing ignorance is strength; ignoring knowledge is sickness.

> -Tao te ching

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services,

> including board approved continuing education classes, an annual

> conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've been working through parts of it and its lots of fun. I think this

must be a reprint of his earlier collection, which was published by some

academic publisher in the Netherlands and it cost a fortune ($200 or more).

I tried working with Unschuld's " Read Chinese " books and didn't find them

very helpful, as he throws in some humdinger grammatical constructions in

the first couple of lessons. One of the nice things about the nei jing is

the meaning is either pretty easy to get or it's so opaque that a room full

of PhDs will sit around mumbling (I've seen it and its distinctly

disenheartening for the part time scholar).

 

Par

 

 

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" " <lionel.y.chan

 

Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:10 PM

Chinese Life Sciences: Intro Readings in CCM by Unschuld

 

 

> I;m sorry if this has been brought up before, but can anyone recommend

> this book to a newbie like myself?

>

> http://www.redwingbooks.com/products/books/ChiLifSciIntRea.cfm

>

> Ta,

> Li

>

> --

> Knowing ignorance is strength; ignoring knowledge is sickness.

> -Tao te ching

>

>

> Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including

> board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a

> free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Par,

I used the " Read Chinese " text as my first Medical Chinese course

text with a tutor several years ago, and also found it very difficult

compared with more classical texts, primarily because of grammatical

structure. I think it had to do with the choice of text, a Qin Bo-

wei TCM primer, which had a scientific/intellectual orientation that

led to some fairly difficult and long sentences. Not easy to learn,

indeed. I've found texts such as the Nan Jing and Shang Han Lun much

easier to learn than other books I've tackled, such as Zhang Xi-

chun's work, which is fairly modern (early 20th century). However,

what you may gain in grammatical simplicity you often lose in

obscurity of meanings with some texts, as you point out with the Nei

Jing corpus. Then you need commentaries to get through the material.

 

 

On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Par Scott wrote:

 

> I've been working through parts of it and its lots of fun. I think

> this

> must be a reprint of his earlier collection, which was published by

> some

> academic publisher in the Netherlands and it cost a fortune ($200

> or more).

> I tried working with Unschuld's " Read Chinese " books and didn't

> find them

> very helpful, as he throws in some humdinger grammatical

> constructions in

> the first couple of lessons. One of the nice things about the nei

> jing is

> the meaning is either pretty easy to get or it's so opaque that a

> room full

> of PhDs will sit around mumbling (I've seen it and its distinctly

> disenheartening for the part time scholar).

>

> Par

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, " Par Scott " <parufus

wrote:

>

> I think this

> must be a reprint of his earlier collection, which was published by

some

> academic publisher in the Netherlands and it cost a fortune ($200 or

more).

 

 

Yes, it is an updated and revised version of the Klauer edition.

 

Bob

[Guest guest]

Z'ev, do you know how much redaction was done on the nei jing during the

Song when it was reedited? I know that chapters were supposedly added at

that point, but did the language get changed substantially as well?

 

Par

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" " <zrosenbe

 

Thursday, March 09, 2006 5:50 PM

Re: Chinese Life Sciences: Intro Readings in CCM by Unschuld

 

 

> Par,

> I used the " Read Chinese " text as my first Medical Chinese course

> text with a tutor several years ago, and also found it very difficult

> compared with more classical texts, primarily because of grammatical

> structure. I think it had to do with the choice of text, a Qin Bo-

> wei TCM primer, which had a scientific/intellectual orientation that

> led to some fairly difficult and long sentences. Not easy to learn,

> indeed. I've found texts such as the Nan Jing and Shang Han Lun much

> easier to learn than other books I've tackled, such as Zhang Xi-

> chun's work, which is fairly modern (early 20th century). However,

> what you may gain in grammatical simplicity you often lose in

> obscurity of meanings with some texts, as you point out with the Nei

> Jing corpus. Then you need commentaries to get through the material.

>

>

> On Mar 8, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Par Scott wrote:

>

>> I've been working through parts of it and its lots of fun. I think

>> this

>> must be a reprint of his earlier collection, which was published by

>> some

>> academic publisher in the Netherlands and it cost a fortune ($200

>> or more).

>> I tried working with Unschuld's " Read Chinese " books and didn't

>> find them

>> very helpful, as he throws in some humdinger grammatical

>> constructions in

>> the first couple of lessons. One of the nice things about the nei

>> jing is

>> the meaning is either pretty easy to get or it's so opaque that a

>> room full

>> of PhDs will sit around mumbling (I've seen it and its distinctly

>> disenheartening for the part time scholar).

>>

>> Par

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That would be a good question for Paul Unschuld. I'll ask him that

when I see him in Austin next month.

 

 

On Mar 9, 2006, at 6:52 PM, Par Scott wrote:

 

> Z'ev, do you know how much redaction was done on the nei jing

> during the

> Song when it was reedited? I know that chapters were supposedly

> added at

> that point, but did the language get changed substantially as well?

>

> Par