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[Guest guest]

OK, I hope this will work out for everybody. What I suggest that we take up Bob

Felt's offer

and suggest terms for a standard. Now there are issues of whether a standard

should be

made but let's leave that aside for now. I also highly suggest that in CHA

debates and

elsewhere we leave aside, as a matter of discipline and professionalism, issues

of motives,

economics, academics and history. I would suggest that person's not defend or

attack

other term choices except in the most general manner at this point. I know we

will see a

very small number of words for which we on this list would disagree and lets see

what

each other can live with.

I have my own ideas about these discussions but I think we can all agree that a

cooperative debate would best serve the English speaking and international

communities.

So please tread respectfully and if you have any doubts wait for a few days or

hours or

minutes before firing off responses.

 

doug

 

 

, Mark Sherwood

<savesherwoodforest wrote:

>

> I've read this list for a few years. It's meaningful

> to me. I don't contribute often because I don't have

> much meaningful to say. I think you did a disservice

> by deleting any content or messages regarding the

> translation debate. I think these are healthy

> " personalities " engaged in a debate that affects all

> of us, and I request that you do not manipulate by

> editing content. This discussion is particularly

> valueable to those of us who teach. I've learned more

> from Eric Brand's posts than in many textbooks, and

> there are many points in Jason's posts that I agree

> with, so please let the discussion continue.

>

 

 

I am pleased that the books and CD have arrived and will be of use to you.

 

I wish you the very best for your March term meeting. My personal

opinion remains the same as in my previous letter to you.

Standardization is a natural process, it occurs when a proposed

standard becomes so useful that it is widely adopted. For the

People's Republic of China to lead this process, it should set the

Chinese language standard and make those who propose English

terminologies subject them to the " test of time. "

 

1. The appropriate P.R.C. authority should publish a Chinese language

list of Chinese medical terms and their definitions, such as your text

" Chinese Terms in Traditional and Pharmacy. "

 

2. Everyone who proposes a terminology should be invited to submit

their list of English equivalents for those terms.

 

3. Everyone who proposes a terminology should agree in writing that

their terminology is available for use by anyone without fee, royalty,

or prior permission of any publisher or individual.

 

4. The appropriate Chinese authority should make all the proposed

terminologies available to anyone through the World Wide Web and other

publications.

 

In two or three years it will be very clear which terminology will be

successful.

 

There are several advantages to this approach. First, it establishes

the Chinese language, and therefore Chinese expertise, as the basis of

the standard. Second, it is fair and honors the traditions of

academic peer review and excellence. Third, it provides P.M.P.H. and

all Chinese publishers and societies the greatest guarantee that

English language readers will accept their works.

 

**********

 

This letter was signed by me as the publisher of Paradigm Publications.

 

Thank you,

 

Bob Felt

[Guest guest]

I agree with sherwood, censoring is not the best solution ...I live in china and

censorship is not a pretty thing. According to the news here everything really

is rosey in china....and america is full of very very bad men.

 

 

Deisen wrote: I also highly suggest that in

CHA debates and

elsewhere we leave aside, as a matter of discipline and

professionalism, issues of motives,

economics, academics and history.

 

Schwartz writes: how can you have a thorough debate unless you consider all

elements, including the opponents motives, economics , etc....how can you carry

on a debate if you cannot discuss history and academics ?

 

Deisen: I would suggest that person's not defend or attack

other term choices except in the most general manner at this point.

 

Schwartz:

We are discussing terms...so we do need to compare and contrast...perhaps we

could share the facts as we perceive them...and save the personal attacks for

either a chatroom or direct email between combatants (off list)

 

A year ago I had doubts as to whether I really wanted to participate in the

translating game especially if the only choice that was available was the

Wiseguy...I mean Wiseman...sorry little slip. I grew up around libraries and

books and have a love/fondness of words (not to mention a fondness for free

choice of said words). It seemed limiting to me when I looked at the BOBx2

publishing house websites and saw variations of ¡°Wiseman's words required

here....¡° Currently I dont hold this opinion to the same extant.....However

when I see the relentless bickering of recent posts, I still wonder if I really

want to partake in this profession. For the love of Sandy Claws would you guys

get back to what you do best...TRANSrATING...focus power...., pubrish articles,

make books!

 

If I had my pick I would prefer bensky's press for my future endeavors,

however I wouldn't go burning any bridges (as I am still a small fish indeed).

Another small point could we please allow Bobs and Wiseman to speak directly for

themselves rather then taking up their causes....bobs and wiseman (and Dan) are

all wellspoken individuals and dont really need our assistance do they?

 

Final thought/reminder: please erase all non-relavant portions of other

senders emails when you post...this will shorten size and time required to read

through the posts

 

Schwartz

 

 

 

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