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Hi group

 

In New Zealand at the moment the government insurance company is putting

together an injury profile book for acupuncture with a brief background to

Cause, Diagnosis, Complications and Treatment of various injuries, eg

shoulder sprain.

 

The document is under review and there is a section under complications of

one of the injuries called

 

" empty (cold) stagnation "

 

Would anyone be able to comment on this terminology? I have never heard of

" empty " stagnation?

 

Heiko Lade

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 3/24/06, Heiko Lade <heikocha wrote:

 

> The document is under review and there is a section under complications

> of

> one of the injuries called

>

> " empty (cold) stagnation "

>

> Would anyone be able to comment on this terminology? I have never heard of

> " empty " stagnation?

>

 

Sounds like they've been eight principled. I can't say I'm familiar with

that differentiation, but it sounds like Kidney yang deficiency causing cold

damp accumulation leading to stagnation of qi and local pain.

 

For insurance purposes, " empty stagnation " seems far more practical. :)

 

 

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what i know about stagnation is that " stagnation " can have different causes.One

of the causes of " empty " stagnation could be;

 

Qi is the driving force for the circulation of different substances in the body.

If there isn't enough Qi supply to move the substances the circulation will

stagnate.

 

best wishes

 

Rick

 

Al Stone <al

 

Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:56:13 AM

Re: empty stagnation

 

On 3/24/06, Heiko Lade <heikocha wrote:

 

> The document is under review and there is a section under complications

> of

> one of the injuries called

>

> " empty (cold) stagnation "

>

> Would anyone be able to comment on this terminology? I have never heard of

> " empty " stagnation?

>

 

Sounds like they've been eight principled. I can't say I'm familiar with

that differentiation, but it sounds like Kidney yang deficiency causing cold

damp accumulation leading to stagnation of qi and local pain.

 

For insurance purposes, " empty stagnation " seems far more practical. :)

 

 

--

 

Pain is inevitable, suffering is optional.

 

 

 

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The mechanism for this combinations of things is clear to you, right?

 

Par

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" Heiko Lade " <heikocha

 

Friday, March 24, 2006 7:53 PM

empty stagnation

 

 

>

>

> Hi group

>

> In New Zealand at the moment the government insurance company is putting

> together an injury profile book for acupuncture with a brief background to

> Cause, Diagnosis, Complications and Treatment of various injuries, eg

> shoulder sprain.

>

> The document is under review and there is a section under complications of

> one of the injuries called

>

> " empty (cold) stagnation "

>

> Would anyone be able to comment on this terminology? I have never heard of

> " empty " stagnation?

>

> Heiko Lade

>

 

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Heiko

Long time no hear. How are you?

I can only tell you how i use this term which is stagnation secondary to a

primary mechanism of Def or Yang-def. I actually think it is quite common even

in cases were one sees local signs of Heat.

 

 

 

 

Oakland, CA 94609

 

 

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Par Scott

Sunday, March 26, 2006 8:41 AM

Re: empty stagnation

 

 

The mechanism for this combinations of things is clear to you, right?

 

Par

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" Heiko Lade " <heikocha

Friday, March 24, 2006 7:53 PM

empty stagnation

 

 

>

>

> Hi group

>

> In New Zealand at the moment the government insurance company is putting

> together an injury profile book for acupuncture with a brief background to

> Cause, Diagnosis, Complications and Treatment of various injuries, eg

> shoulder sprain.

>

> The document is under review and there is a section under complications of

> one of the injuries called

>

> " empty (cold) stagnation "

>

> Would anyone be able to comment on this terminology? I have never heard of

> " empty " stagnation?

>

> Heiko Lade

>

>

>

>

>

>

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