Guest guest Posted April 2, 2006 Report Share Posted April 2, 2006 In the same magazine in which Xie Zhu-fan's criticism of Wiseman's terminology appeared, there was an editorial piece, entitled " Study of traditional Chinese medicine-- which is after all the right way? " Article reference: Chin J. Integr Med 2005 Dec;1),pp 241?242. Intro: " The study of traditional (TCM) with modern research approach has been ongoing for more than half a century. Although great achievement has been made, the progress is less significant when compared with the advance made in other scientific disciplines such as Western medicine (WM). TCM development has reached a crucial point in the era of rapid development of modern sciences and technologies. Whether or not and how to incorporate contemporary sciences and advanced technologies into the study of TCM has been a hot topic discussed in the academics in China. Different schools of thought have been surfaced and debated. In this article we present these views as well as our own opinions over the direction of TCM development. " Some people argue that Chinese medicine should not be subjected to modern research methods: " Introducing modern medicine and scientific means into the study of TCM will alter or misinterpret the essence of TCM and finally lead to the vanishing or distinction of the ancient art. " Some argue that Western methods are not applicable to Chinese medicine because of a different paradigm: " TCM originated in ancient times in accordance with the science and technologies of that time. It was developed under the influence of simple materialism and spontaneous dialectics. " The authors of the article argue in favour of modern research: " The ancient theories and rich experiences of TCM is not flawless, having limitations both in its theory and practice. The understanding and interpretation of the success and limitation of TCM can only be accomplished with the assistance of modern scientific approaches. " The article goes on about a possible integration of Chinese and Western medicine, which is encouraged by the Chinese government. Although this integration is not without its problems and is only in its initiative phase, they believe that the outcome justifies the difficulties one may encounter in the process: " Relatively speaking, TCM emphasizes the macroscopic view and entirety, while WM emphasizes the microscopic view and individual parts. Integrating the two medicines involves identifying ways to complement each other and developing more efficacious and safer therapies. " And the issue comes back to terminology when they are criticising flaws in Chinese medical theory (without giving any examples though): " We believe that the objective and normative expressions in TCM are based on classical Chinese physiology and experiences. The connotations of some basic concepts are very vague, which severely limits the development of TCM itself In addition,TCM could not have enough incorporated into the nature in modern times. It is our belief that the fundamental theories of TCM need to be enriched and developed. This can be accomplished by:(I)enhancing their reference sorting and translation into the modern language; (2) summarizing clinical works, experiances and literature reviews so as to propose new hypotheses, explore new principles and form new theories. Only by so doing can TCM be truly inherited and further developed. " The authors of the article are Chen Ke-ji and Li Li-zhi. I have never heard of them before, but they seem to have done some research on new Chinese herbal treatments. They do touch on some subjects which may not have easy answers to them: can and should Chinese medicine be proven with modern scientific methods? There was an editorial in the Lantern magazine (May 2004), entitled " The Tyranny of the microscope. " making its point that Chinese medicine can and does deal with the uncertainty of life, without concrete evidence like lab tests etc. From this editorial piece (probably written by Steve Clavey) I do get an impression -my own impression- that they feel that Chinese medicine may somehow be superior to the microscope, and may often yield results where other Western therapies fail. This may well be so, but it is not ALWAYS true I have an ALS patient whose health is slowly getting worse and worse, and while Chinese medicine may have some effect on some ALS sufferers, wouldn't it be nice to know how many patients would statistically respond to CM treatments, and which treatment methods would have more effect? The other day I was reading in Alon's book, noticing that in his experience herbs that Invigorate Kidney and Liver often do not work well in chronic impediment patterns. Wouldn't it be nice to know why? Is it because there are limits to invigorating? What are the limits of Chinese medicine? How does a 'master'practitioner differ from younger disciple-practitoners? Is Chinese medicine truly an art-form which can only be understood through inner experiences (Qi Gong,, meditation) so we can grasp the true significance of Jing, Qi and Shen? And while we're on the topic: there are so many ways to explore one's inner worlds. Daoism is only one of those, others also have their merits. If Daoism (and its consequent theories of Yin, Yang, Jing, Qi and Shen) is only out of many ways to explore the inner territories, there must be several limits to it, no? I wish I could have some clear answers to these questions...in the mean time I guess I have to live with the limits I encounter (or is that the answer to my question , I wonder aloud.) Oh by the way you may email me for a copy of the article I started this post with. Best regards to y'all, Tom. 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