Guest guest Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Meredith, I have had good results with Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin for eyelid spasms, since Liver Wind is usually involved. - Bill Schoenbart .................................... Bill Schoenbart PO Box 8099 Santa Cruz, CA 95061 831-335-3165 plantmed > >>>Hi! I am looking for some help. I have a patient, a 55yo woman, > postmenopausal, with a twitching or spasming right eyelid. The symptom > started about 10 years ago, but recently (last fall) became much > worse, i.e. more frequent. The twitching definitely increases with > stress and she had 2 deaths in her family-brother, suddenly, in fall > 05 and her mother, who was declining and then passed away in Feb 06. > Add work related stress and the stress of the twitching (she works > with the public). > She is single, now working part-time, but that has not relieved the > twitching. > Her pulse is slippery. Her tongue is pale-purple, no coating, swollen > in the center, with some teethmarks. > I have treated her with acupuncture 4 times. The frequency lessened > with the first tx but has not improved with the next 3 tx. I am > treating with distal points as well as local. The spasming, according > to the patient, travels along the ST channel in the face, so I am > using ST2,3, 4 and thread from 5-6, again, as well as distal points > for LV wind, ST, and KD yin def. > I think the diagnosis is BL, Yin and Qi deficiency with LV wind or LV > yang rising. > I started with Ba Zhen Wan, but saw no change after 2 weeks. Switched > to Gan Mai Da Zao Wan because of her anxiety over an upcoming vacation > (which should be relaxing and stress free!). > Any suggestions, both herbal and acupuncture? > I appreciate hearing from any and all! > Thanks, > Meredith Young, CAc, MSOM, ND > Shorewood, WI>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 Bill-thanks so much. I gave her a bottle yesterday. I will keep you posted on the results. She started seeing some slight improvement with the gan mai da zao, so maybe together. Great to see people find relief...Thanks again. , " Bill Schoenbart " <plantmed2 wrote: > > Meredith, > > I have had good results with Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin for eyelid spasms, since > Liver Wind is usually involved. > > - Bill Schoenbart > > ................................... > Bill Schoenbart > PO Box 8099 > Santa Cruz, CA 95061 > > 831-335-3165 > plantmed > > > > > >>>Hi! I am looking for some help. I have a patient, a 55yo woman, > > postmenopausal, with a twitching or spasming right eyelid. The symptom > > started about 10 years ago, but recently (last fall) became much > > worse, i.e. more frequent. The twitching definitely increases with > > stress and she had 2 deaths in her family-brother, suddenly, in fall > > 05 and her mother, who was declining and then passed away in Feb 06. > > Add work related stress and the stress of the twitching (she works > > with the public). > > She is single, now working part-time, but that has not relieved the > > twitching. > > Her pulse is slippery. Her tongue is pale-purple, no coating, swollen > > in the center, with some teethmarks. > > I have treated her with acupuncture 4 times. The frequency lessened > > with the first tx but has not improved with the next 3 tx. I am > > treating with distal points as well as local. The spasming, according > > to the patient, travels along the ST channel in the face, so I am > > using ST2,3, 4 and thread from 5-6, again, as well as distal points > > for LV wind, ST, and KD yin def. > > I think the diagnosis is BL, Yin and Qi deficiency with LV wind or LV > > yang rising. > > I started with Ba Zhen Wan, but saw no change after 2 weeks. Switched > > to Gan Mai Da Zao Wan because of her anxiety over an upcoming vacation > > (which should be relaxing and stress free!). > > Any suggestions, both herbal and acupuncture? > > I appreciate hearing from any and all! > > Thanks, > > Meredith Young, CAc, MSOM, ND > > Shorewood, WI>>>> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2006 Report Share Posted April 16, 2006 I had a similar patient and got pretty good results with Qi Ju Di huang Pian. Ferran > " natdoc48 " <natdoc48 > > > Re: eyelid spasms >Sun, 16 Apr 2006 10:01:26 -0000 > >Bill-thanks so much. I gave her a bottle yesterday. I will keep you >posted on the results. She started seeing some slight improvement >with the gan mai da zao, so maybe together. Great to see people find >relief...Thanks again. > > > , " Bill Schoenbart " ><plantmed2 wrote: > > > > Meredith, > > > > I have had good results with Tian Ma Gou Teng Yin for eyelid spasms, >since > > Liver Wind is usually involved. > > > > - Bill Schoenbart > > > > ................................... > > Bill Schoenbart > > PO Box 8099 > > Santa Cruz, CA 95061 > > > > 831-335-3165 > > plantmed > > > > > > > > > >>>Hi! I am looking for some help. I have a patient, a 55yo woman, > > > postmenopausal, with a twitching or spasming right eyelid. The symptom > > > started about 10 years ago, but recently (last fall) became much > > > worse, i.e. more frequent. The twitching definitely increases with > > > stress and she had 2 deaths in her family-brother, suddenly, in fall > > > 05 and her mother, who was declining and then passed away in Feb 06. > > > Add work related stress and the stress of the twitching (she works > > > with the public). > > > She is single, now working part-time, but that has not relieved the > > > twitching. > > > Her pulse is slippery. Her tongue is pale-purple, no coating, swollen > > > in the center, with some teethmarks. > > > I have treated her with acupuncture 4 times. The frequency lessened > > > with the first tx but has not improved with the next 3 tx. I am > > > treating with distal points as well as local. The spasming, according > > > to the patient, travels along the ST channel in the face, so I am > > > using ST2,3, 4 and thread from 5-6, again, as well as distal points > > > for LV wind, ST, and KD yin def. > > > I think the diagnosis is BL, Yin and Qi deficiency with LV wind or LV > > > yang rising. > > > I started with Ba Zhen Wan, but saw no change after 2 weeks. Switched > > > to Gan Mai Da Zao Wan because of her anxiety over an upcoming vacation > > > (which should be relaxing and stress free!). > > > Any suggestions, both herbal and acupuncture? > > > I appreciate hearing from any and all! > > > Thanks, > > > Meredith Young, CAc, MSOM, ND > > > Shorewood, WI>>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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