Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. 626.448.6622 wrote: Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 Bingo! Thanks Kim, Y kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. 626.448.6622 wrote: Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Kim, I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren Tang brand. How come? kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. 626.448.6622 wrote: Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Hi - I received a notification from them by mail just last week announcing that they now carry Beijing Tong Ren Tang patent formulas; I assume they have yet to update the website. Take care - Kim wrote: Kim, I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren Tang brand. How come? kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. 626.448.6622 wrote: Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong at all.... Christine --- wrote: > Kim, > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > Tang brand. How come? > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > 626.448.6622 > > wrote: Would > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > local direct distributor in the states and > specificallly in LA? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > services, including board approved continuing > education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Dear Yehuda - I received a flyer from CAI via snail-mail last week stating that they are now distributing about 30-40 TRT formulas and the TRT logo was prominently displayed. Perhaps Ms. Chang can further enlighten everyone on this subject. I had read recently that TRT were greatly expanding their production at a large new facility in HK and assumed this might be connected. I'm no great fan of CAI as they have fouled up some recent herb orders of mine, but just wanted you to know that they may be an option. I'm not planning on ordering any of these products myself because I have little experience with TRT, but I would appreciate any feedback on this if you follow up on it. Thanks - Kim wrote: Kim, I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren Tang brand. How come? kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. 626.448.6622 wrote: Would anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a local direct distributor in the states and specificallly in LA? Thanks, Yehuda Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) Mike L. Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong at all.... Christine --- wrote: > Kim, > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > Tang brand. How come? > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > 626.448.6622 > > wrote: Would > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > local direct distributor in the states and > specificallly in LA? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > services, including board approved continuing > education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 anything special about the tong ren tang pills? Oakland, CA 94609 - Mike Liaw Monday, April 24, 2006 12:53 PM Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) Mike L. Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong at all.... Christine --- wrote: > Kim, > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > Tang brand. How come? > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > 626.448.6622 > > wrote: Would > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > local direct distributor in the states and > specificallly in LA? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > services, including board approved continuing > education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Tong Ren Tang has been *the* most reputable brand to many Chinese patients. They have been around for generations. Some of my patients won't take any CM " patent " formula made in PRC, other than the ones from Tong Ren Tang. Mike L. <alonmarcus wrote: anything special about the tong ren tang pills? Oakland, CA 94609 - Mike Liaw Monday, April 24, 2006 12:53 PM Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) Mike L. Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong at all.... Christine --- wrote: > Kim, > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > Tang brand. How come? > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > 626.448.6622 > > wrote: Would > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > local direct distributor in the states and > specificallly in LA? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > services, including board approved continuing > education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 That's primeherbs.com (not primeRherbs) doug , Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote: > > Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) > > Mike L. > > Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: > because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong > at all.... > > Christine > > --- wrote: > > > Kim, > > > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > > Tang brand. How come? > > > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > > 626.448.6622 > > > > wrote: Would > > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > > local direct distributor in the states and > > specificallly in LA? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > > services, including board approved continuing > > education classes, an annual conference and a free > > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2006 Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 Doug, You are right. Thanks for correcting it. Mike L. wrote: That's primeherbs.com (not primeRherbs) doug , Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote: > > Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) > > Mike L. > > Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: > because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong > at all.... > > Christine > > --- wrote: > > > Kim, > > > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > > Tang brand. How come? > > > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > > 626.448.6622 > > > > wrote: Would > > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > > local direct distributor in the states and > > specificallly in LA? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Yehuda > > > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > > services, including board approved continuing > > education classes, an annual conference and a free > > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 Exactly. Just to add, from what my prof. Zhang Ji says, theirs are considered by practitioners in PRC as simply the best formulation and highest quality patents available. Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote: Tong Ren Tang has been *the* most reputable brand to many Chinese patients. They have been around for generations. Some of my patients won't take any CM " patent " formula made in PRC, other than the ones from Tong Ren Tang. Mike L. <alonmarcus wrote: anything special about the tong ren tang pills? Oakland, CA 94609 - Mike Liaw Monday, April 24, 2006 12:53 PM Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs Primerherbs.com has just become the distributor. I have gotten Tong Ren Tang pills delivered by them. (I don't think their web site is updated yet, but just go and ask.) Mike L. Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: because, they are not a distributor of Tong Ren Tong at all.... Christine --- wrote: > Kim, > > I went to CAI's site and there was not mention nor > indication that the herbs they sell are Tong Ren > Tang brand. How come? > > kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > C.A.I. is in LA: www.caicorporation.com. > 626.448.6622 > > wrote: Would > anyone know if Tong Ren Tang out of Bejing has a > local direct distributor in the states and > specificallly in LA? > > Thanks, > > Yehuda > > > > Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls > to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2?min or less. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional > services, including board approved continuing > education classes, an annual conference and a free > discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Exactly. Just to add, from what my prof. Zhang Ji says, theirs are considered by practitioners in PRC as simply the best formulation and highest quality patents available. > > Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote: Tong Ren Tang has been *the* most reputable brand to many Chinese patients. They have been around for generations. Some of my patients won't take any CM " patent " formula made in PRC, other than the ones from Tong Ren Tang. > > Mike L. > > <alonmarcus wrote: > anything special about the tong ren tang pills? But the UK branch of Tong Ren Tang has been fined for selling herbal creams with 5 types of corticosteoroids in it: " Beijing Tong Ren Tang (UK) Ltd, in Shaftesbury Avenue, London, sold an undercover Which? researcher a & #65533;10 pot of 'herbal' cream for treating eczema. But tests showed the ointment was laced with a cocktail of five corticosteroids. Possible side effects at high doses include bruising or thinning of the skin, and, once absorbed, steroids can even make you more vulnerable to infections. It's illegal to sell these particular steroids without a prescription. " http://www.which.co.uk/news/healthandwellbeing/05/nov/chinesesun.html Does anyone on the list know how Tong Ren Tang produces their products? I have heard that the latest trend in China is to first use alcohol or even benzene to make a first extraction. This is before the herbs are cooked in water and concentrated. Because this would allow for higher potency of the end-product. The end-product is thus very different from a traditional decoction or even granule extract. Can anyone confirm this? Tom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2006 Report Share Posted April 25, 2006 If what they sold in that London shop is indeed manufactured by Tong Ren Tang, that'd ruin their 300 year reputation. I'd write to them for an explanation. Mike L. Tom Verhaeghe <tom.verhaeghe wrote: , yehuda frischman < wrote: > > Exactly. Just to add, from what my prof. Zhang Ji says, theirs are considered by practitioners in PRC as simply the best formulation and highest quality patents available. > > Mike Liaw <mikeliaw wrote: Tong Ren Tang has been *the* most reputable brand to many Chinese patients. They have been around for generations. Some of my patients won't take any CM " patent " formula made in PRC, other than the ones from Tong Ren Tang. > > Mike L. > > <alonmarcus wrote: > anything special about the tong ren tang pills? But the UK branch of Tong Ren Tang has been fined for selling herbal creams with 5 types of corticosteoroids in it: " Beijing Tong Ren Tang (UK) Ltd, in Shaftesbury Avenue, London, sold an undercover Which? researcher a & #65533;10 pot of 'herbal' cream for treating eczema. But tests showed the ointment was laced with a cocktail of five corticosteroids. Possible side effects at high doses include bruising or thinning of the skin, and, once absorbed, steroids can even make you more vulnerable to infections. It's illegal to sell these particular steroids without a prescription. " http://www.which.co.uk/news/healthandwellbeing/05/nov/chinesesun.html Does anyone on the list know how Tong Ren Tang produces their products? I have heard that the latest trend in China is to first use alcohol or even benzene to make a first extraction. This is before the herbs are cooked in water and concentrated. Because this would allow for higher potency of the end-product. The end-product is thus very different from a traditional decoction or even granule extract. Can anyone confirm this? Tom. Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 I also trust the brand that made in Hong kong , MA Pak Leung, have 182 years history. Thank You --- kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > Dear Yehuda - > > I received a flyer from CAI via snail-mail last > week stating that they are now distributing about > 30-40 TRT formulas and the TRT logo was prominently > displayed. Perhaps Ms. Chang can further enlighten > everyone on this subject. I had read recently that > TRT were greatly expanding their production at a > large new facility in HK and assumed this might be > connected. I'm no great fan of CAI as they have > fouled up some recent herb orders of mine, but just > wanted you to know that they may be an option. I'm > not planning on ordering any of these products > myself because I have little experience with TRT, > but I would appreciate any feedback on this if you > follow up on it. Thanks - > > Kim > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2006 Report Share Posted May 31, 2006 TRT is a very old, traditional herbal company in Beijing, China. If I need to buy some traditional treated, made, and patents I will go for this brand; like: wu ji bai feng wan, niu huang qing xin wan¡K, tian wan bu xin dan (big herbal ball.., sealed with the wax). But for the high standard of GMP or ratio 5: 1, I will get form the manufacture of Taiwan. My two cents Christine --- tony t <panasiapc wrote: > I also trust the brand that made in Hong kong , MA > Pak > Leung, have 182 years history. > Thank You > > --- kim blankenship <kuangguiyu wrote: > > > Dear Yehuda - > > > > I received a flyer from CAI via snail-mail last > > week stating that they are now distributing about > > 30-40 TRT formulas and the TRT logo was > prominently > > displayed. Perhaps Ms. Chang can further > enlighten > > everyone on this subject. I had read recently > that > > TRT were greatly expanding their production at a > > large new facility in HK and assumed this might be > > connected. I'm no great fan of CAI as they have > > fouled up some recent herb orders of mine, but > just > > wanted you to know that they may be an option. > I'm > > not planning on ordering any of these products > > myself because I have little experience with TRT, > > but I would appreciate any feedback on this if you > > follow up on it. Thanks - > > > > Kim > > > > > Christine Wei Chang, LAc, MTOM BOD & Herbal Medicine Committee American Association of Oriental Medicine (AAOM) 310-951-8698 (cel) panasiaintl " I think, therefore I am. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 , Christine Chang <panasiaintl wrote: > > TRT is a very old, traditional herbal company in > Beijing, China. If I need to buy some traditional > treated, made, and patents I will go for this brand; > like: wu ji bai feng wan, niu huang qing xin wan¡K, > tian wan bu xin dan (big herbal ball.., sealed with > the wax). > > But for the high standard of GMP or ratio 5: 1, I will > get form the manufacture of Taiwan. I completely agree. Tong Ren Tang's specialty products are the big traditional pills, especially ones like an gong niu huang wan. Their common tea pills are pretty standard, they're good but not really distinctly better than plum flower or min shan. Tong Ren Tang does have authentic wild ginseng, with digital photos and lot numbers that guarantee that the root hasn't been switched, etc. For someone who is not concerned about price and wants to get authentic products like niu huang, wild ginseng, high-end cordyceps, etc, the Beijing Tong Ren Tang stores in Asia do have high-end and authentic products. Very expensive, of course. Interestingly, we got some raw formulas filled at a tong ren tang in Beijing and the quality of the common herbs was pretty poor (this was in the oldest shop, around since the time when they made formulas for the Qing emperors). By contrast, the Tong Ren Tang branch in Taipei has some really premium stuff, and even a ginseng expert upstairs who really knows his art. Very overpriced, in both Hong Kong and Taipei, except for a few small products. The tea pills and other extracts sold at Tong Ren Tang shops in Mainland China are pretty reasonably priced, but the various grades of ginseng and velvet antler (though they offer a spectacular selection) are rather expensive by market standards. Some people might be squeemish about Tong Ren Tang because they are also famous for their Hu Gu Mu Gua Jiu (reputed to contain real tiger bone). Those disinclined towards hardcore animal products might also have a hard time looking at the deer fetus in the window of the Hong Kong branch. In mainland China, TRT also appears to be their own drug manufacturer, at least, they have their own line of Western drugs in addition to CM. No personal judgement about any of this, just painting a picture of the scope of what Tong Ren Tang is all about. For common clinical use, the Taiwanese granules are overall a much more potent, versatile, and affordable solution. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Eric, What are the Taiwanese granules you refer to? How do they compare to granules available in the US? ,L.Ac. --- Eric Brand <smilinglotus wrote: > , Christine Chang > <panasiaintl wrote: > > > > TRT is a very old, traditional herbal company in > > Beijing, China. If I need to buy some traditional > > treated, made, and patents I will go for this brand; > > like: wu ji bai feng wan, niu huang qing xin wan¡K, > > tian wan bu xin dan (big herbal ball.., sealed with > > the wax). > > > > But for the high standard of GMP or ratio 5: 1, I will > > get form the manufacture of Taiwan. > > I completely agree. Tong Ren Tang's specialty products are the big > traditional pills, especially ones like an gong niu huang wan. > Their common tea pills are pretty standard, they're good but not > really distinctly better than plum flower or min shan. Tong Ren > Tang does have authentic wild ginseng, with digital photos and lot > numbers that guarantee that the root hasn't been switched, etc. For > someone who is not concerned about price and wants to get authentic > products like niu huang, wild ginseng, high-end cordyceps, etc, the > Beijing Tong Ren Tang stores in Asia do have high-end and authentic > products. Very expensive, of course. > > Interestingly, we got some raw formulas filled at a tong ren tang in > Beijing and the quality of the common herbs was pretty poor (this > was in the oldest shop, around since the time when they made > formulas for the Qing emperors). By contrast, the Tong Ren Tang > branch in Taipei has some really premium stuff, and even a ginseng > expert upstairs who really knows his art. Very overpriced, in both > Hong Kong and Taipei, except for a few small products. The tea > pills and other extracts sold at Tong Ren Tang shops in Mainland > China are pretty reasonably priced, but the various grades of > ginseng and velvet antler (though they offer a spectacular > selection) are rather expensive by market standards. > > Some people might be squeemish about Tong Ren Tang because they are > also famous for their Hu Gu Mu Gua Jiu (reputed to contain real > tiger bone). Those disinclined towards hardcore animal products > might also have a hard time looking at the deer fetus in the window > of the Hong Kong branch. In mainland China, TRT also appears to be > their own drug manufacturer, at least, they have their own line of > Western drugs in addition to CM. No personal judgement about any of > this, just painting a picture of the scope of what Tong Ren Tang is > all about. > > For common clinical use, the Taiwanese granules are overall a much > more potent, versatile, and affordable solution. > > Eric > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 , < wrote: > > Eric, > > What are the Taiwanese granules you refer to? How do they compare to granules > available in the US? They are one and the same. The granules we use in the US are mostly made in Taiwan. They are the identical product that is used in Taiwanese hospitals and clinics. Taiwan's largest producers are Shun Tian Tang (Sun Ten/Brion) and Gang Xiang Lan (KP/KPC), along with slightly smaller producers like Sheng Chang (Qualiherb), Ke Da, and Zhuang Song Rong. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Thanks, Eric. Andrea Beth --- Eric Brand <smilinglotus wrote: > They are one and the same. The granules we use in the US are mostly > made in Taiwan. They are the identical product that is used in > Taiwanese hospitals and clinics. Taiwan's largest producers are Shun > Tian Tang (Sun Ten/Brion) and Gang Xiang Lan (KP/KPC), along with > slightly smaller producers like Sheng Chang (Qualiherb), Ke Da, and > Zhuang Song Rong. > > Eric > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2006 Report Share Posted June 3, 2006 Eric Is KP/KPC bigger than Sheng Chang in herbal production or as a company whole ie with their pharmaceutical division? Oakland, CA 94609 - Eric Brand Saturday, June 03, 2006 1:27 AM Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs , < wrote: > > Eric, > > What are the Taiwanese granules you refer to? How do they compare to granules > available in the US? They are one and the same. The granules we use in the US are mostly made in Taiwan. They are the identical product that is used in Taiwanese hospitals and clinics. Taiwan's largest producers are Shun Tian Tang (Sun Ten/Brion) and Gang Xiang Lan (KP/KPC), along with slightly smaller producers like Sheng Chang (Qualiherb), Ke Da, and Zhuang Song Rong. Eric Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Ke Da, also known as KO DA, is distributed by PhytoComm in Europe. Good stuff, my favorite! Coating with rice. We compared the aroma from several granules once with a group of people, koda came out best. (maybe because of the rice coating?) (no commercial interests) Herman Oving > Sat Jun 3, 2006 1:28 am (PDT) > " Eric Brand " smilinglotus > Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs > > > , > < wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > What are the Taiwanese granules you refer to? How do they compare > to granules > > available in the US? > > They are one and the same. The granules we use in the US are mostly > made in Taiwan. They are the identical product that is used in > Taiwanese hospitals and clinics. Taiwan's largest producers are Shun > Tian Tang (Sun Ten/Brion) and Gang Xiang Lan (KP/KPC), along with > slightly smaller producers like Sheng Chang (Qualiherb), Ke Da, and > Zhuang Song Rong. > > Eric > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2006 Report Share Posted June 4, 2006 Herman Ke Da also has some of the highest concentrations Oakland, CA 94609 - Herman Oving - Aowen TCG Sunday, June 04, 2006 5:15 AM RE: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs Ke Da, also known as KO DA, is distributed by PhytoComm in Europe. Good stuff, my favorite! Coating with rice. We compared the aroma from several granules once with a group of people, koda came out best. (maybe because of the rice coating?) (no commercial interests) Herman Oving > Sat Jun 3, 2006 1:28 am (PDT) > " Eric Brand " smilinglotus > Re: Tong Ren Tang brand herbs > > > , > < wrote: > > > > Eric, > > > > What are the Taiwanese granules you refer to? How do they compare > to granules > > available in the US? > > They are one and the same. The granules we use in the US are mostly > made in Taiwan. They are the identical product that is used in > Taiwanese hospitals and clinics. Taiwan's largest producers are Shun > Tian Tang (Sun Ten/Brion) and Gang Xiang Lan (KP/KPC), along with > slightly smaller producers like Sheng Chang (Qualiherb), Ke Da, and > Zhuang Song Rong. > > Eric > > > > Chinese Herbal Medicine offers various professional services, including board approved continuing education classes, an annual conference and a free discussion forum in Chinese Herbal Medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2006 Report Share Posted June 5, 2006 , " " <alonmarcus wrote: > > Eric > Is KP/KPC bigger than Sheng Chang in herbal production or as a company whole ie with their pharmaceutical division? I'm not sure, I've only been to one of their factories (KP), haven't compared their size directly, nor have I ever seen stats on the volume that they produce. But people always say that KP and Sun Ten are the two biggest, and their products are by far the most prominent in pharmacies and granule outlet shops. But I don't know how the actual production volume compares between KP and Sheng Chang. Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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