Guest guest Posted May 7, 2006 Report Share Posted May 7, 2006 Dear list members, I was treating myself for inguinal pain with moxa along the channel. The tx worked well, but after the second time, some painful vesicles appeared on the right inguinal area and around the waist on the right side only. At first I thought I had burned myself with the moxa, but when some vesicles appeared in places that I hadn't moxaed, I thought of shingles, HZV. I'm having a little stress in my life -- but who doesn't? Is Spring-time good for latent pathogens? Liks the shiny poison-ivy appearing everywhere on the forest floor? Should I consider this damp-heat in the liver/gallbladder? I would appreciate any insights, Carl Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Is it possible you have painfully discovered the Gall bladder meridian? doug , carl ploss <cploss wrote: > > > Dear list members, > > I was treating myself for inguinal pain with moxa along the channel. The tx worked well, but after the second time, some painful vesicles appeared on the right inguinal area and around the waist on the right side only. At first I thought I had burned myself with the moxa, but when some vesicles appeared in places that I hadn't moxaed, I thought of shingles, HZV. > > I'm having a little stress in my life -- but who doesn't? > > Is Spring-time good for latent pathogens? Liks the shiny poison-ivy appearing everywhere on the forest floor? > > Should I consider this damp-heat in the liver/gallbladder? > > I would appreciate any insights, Carl > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2?/min with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 Hi Carl, I don't know where you're located and what your local weather is, but I find shingles tends to appear in early spring, as liver energy is coming full, and even more strongly, with more severe cases, later in summer, with hot, damp weather. It is definitely a damp heat rash, and it does sound like yours is following the liver and gallbladder channels. Long Dan Xie Gan Tang is the recommended formula for active shingles outbreak, and it also responds well and quickly to acupuncture - surround the dragon technique, starting to needle where the rash first appeared and then secondly in the direction the rash is heading, and then space your needles about 1 cun apart all around the perimeter of the rash. I've had good results with this when the rash is in its first few days. Some texts recommend using moxa for shingles, and I have never done this. I hear it dries out the dampness in the rash, but I've been reluctant to add more heat to a rash that is already hot. If anyone's used moxa on shingles (or other hot rashes) with good success, I'd appreciate hearing your success. --- carl ploss <cploss wrote: > > Dear list members, > > I was treating myself for inguinal pain with moxa along the channel. The tx > worked well, but after the second time, some painful vesicles appeared on the > right inguinal area and around the waist on the right side only. At first I > thought I had burned myself with the moxa, but when some vesicles appeared in > places that I hadn't moxaed, I thought of shingles, HZV. > > I'm having a little stress in my life -- but who doesn't? > > Is Spring-time good for latent pathogens? Liks the shiny poison-ivy appearing > everywhere on the forest floor? > > Should I consider this damp-heat in the liver/gallbladder? > > I would appreciate any insights, Carl > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min > with Messenger with Voice. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 > > Is Spring-time good for latent pathogens? Liks the shiny poison-ivy appearing everywhere on the forest floor? Just something to keep in mind...unlike the Gregorian calendar, the traditional Chinese calendar begins the seasons at the midpoints between the solstices and equinoxes so spring ended and summer began approximately May 6th. http://balancemethod.org/content/view/13/29/ http://www.friesian.com/chinacal.htm Be well...mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Ta-Ya, Could you describe this procedure in more detail? How many direct moxas do you apply to a given area of the rash? Do you repeat on any spots? - Bill Schoenbart ................................... Bill Schoenbart, L.Ac. PO Box 8099 Santa Cruz, CA 95061 831-335-3165 plantmed >>>>>>>>>>>I had a very good outcome of using rice size moxa directly on Shingles, especially the lesion is really weeping with blisters. The Moxa has to be the highest grade. My patient's shingles lesion disappear within 1 day of the treatment. LDXG may not work as quickly for patient in acute phase. I was hesitate to give high dose, due to elderly patients' liver and kidney function may not be as good as others. Ta-Ya >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Hi! Bill, I used 4 very small rice sized moxa per each blister lesions of shingle. The moxa have to burn totally. Pt may feel a bit burning sensation which feel like needle pricking the blister. It take a long time to take care of the lesions, but it helps a lot. I asked patient to come back in 3 days, and only repeat moxa to those large lesions with pain. It take some practice to roll such small size of moxa and burn it. It's Toyohari style of moxa treatment. I would recommend you practice on yourself before working on patients. Ta-Ya Ta-Ya Lee, MSN, CRNP, MAc, LAc, MBA Johns Hopkins Community Physicians Wyman Park Internal Medicine Phone 410-338-3421 Fax 410-338-3413 WARNING: E-mail sent over the Internet is not secure. Information sent by e-mail may not remain confidential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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