little dude

[Guest guest]

that being said, I would not even attempt bitong as a point for

kids under

12-13 yo,---

 

ok- 1st - the little dude is only 5yo

2nd- is bitong really necessary? what about a few herbs instead

3rd- a women who was tx by the same man- told me she wasnt

returning- so

i talked her into coming back - because hes retiring in 2 weeks-

butttttt-

if a 30 yo has the right to refuse tx- why not this little guy-

4th- ill let the little dude needle me after the retirement-to see if that

help ease his mind- but if he hurts

me-- hes gonna get it

 

and i wanted to thank everyone for their advice-

chet

 

" Dissent without resistance is consent. " HDT

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Just to reply to some of the things Yehuda said.

A health nurse who gives vaccinations told me that the kids who are

told " this wont hurt a bit. Now be good and you'll get a treat. " Are

the ones who freak out the most and find the vaccination experience

traumatic. As soon as they are told that, they KNOW that something

is up. The ones who are told " This will hurt a bit, but we believe

its necessary, and you'll be fine. " And have the procedure explained

to them, tend to be the ones who will watch the procedure and be OK

and even a little interested in it. Children, above all else, will

pick up on the emotions of their caregivers. Sometimes medicine

hurts, and you cant just avoid all discomfort, but a certain

weighing up is needed, the need offset by the discomfort and

efficacy of the procedure. I have had to hold my son down to have

his dislocated elbow put back, and to dress a badly burnt foot, and

to have a wound stitched up (hes three years old too,

sheesh...active kid.) But letting him not be treated because it was

really going to hurt him, wasnt an option. Of course you want to

shield children from early trauma, but as the parent you need to

sometimes make decisions for their greater good, even if it sucks at

the time, and the human organism is nothing if not resilient.

I also think that the pros and cons of vaccinations are not really

the issue here. I think that people can and should take advantage of

herd immunity in developed nations and exercise their right to not

vaccinate their children. However, if everybody did that, then there

wouldnt be the herd immunity. People seem to forget that diseases

like diptheria used to result in a whole lot of little coffins.

Which is more " barbaric " , the vaccination or the disease?

I agree that not all vaccinations are necessary or advisable, and I

myself " conscientously objected " to my son having the MMR, as I felt

the jury wasnt back on the longer term effects of that one. But even

though I myself had measles as a child and was fine, I also have a

friend who at the age of 21 complained of a sore throat one day, and

was being disconnected from the life-support 3 days later, dead from

measles encephalitis, and there was nothing TCM or WM could have

done, apart from vaccination. So I realize that this decision of

mine is not without risk.

And whilst I was studying in China, I examined a patient that turned

out to have typhoid, so there was no time that I wasnt happy that I

was vaccinated against that! (Especially since number one son was in

China with us too.)

In my own practice, I have pretty much gone the way that Bob Flaws

described in his post, and tend to prescribe herbs. I tend to not

even do infant tuina because the kids squirm and sometimes cry and

the parents want to pick them up and nobody's happy with the

treatment. But, and this is the thing, I havent really seen any

children in this country, in my practice, that had a condition that

warranted acupuncture as a primary treatment, offset against the

discomfort it was going to cause them. We're very lucky, in the

developed west, to have the options that we do.

Regards,

Lea.