Natural Preservatives ** Grapefruit Seed Extract

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Hi Tammy,

 

> Thank you so much Butch for all the valuable info.

 

My pleasure fer'shur.

 

> I guess now I just have to find the " least offensive " synthetic

> preservative.

 

Wish I could help .. but as I said, I don't deal with anything but

Essential Oils, Carrier Oils and Hydrosols .. and I use no preservatives

in any of them. However, I am 100% sure that folks on this list will

come forward with recommendations .. its a good thread.

 

I have often read .. that Germall Plus Powder and Liquid are good

preservatives .. both synthetics. And I have often read .. that some

good antioxidants are Rosemary Oil Extract or Oleoresin, Vitamin E, and

Grapefruit Seed Extract. And I have often read .. that the shelf life

of different creams, lotions, conditioners, cosmetics, etc., will be

different based on the product used, the temperature the product is

stored .. and the proper or improper handling of the product by the end

user. Its claimed that most folks improperly use lots of items in that

they contaminate them by touching the contents with fingers, etc.

 

I know that the List Mom can come on line regarding this subject and I

believe she uses either all Hydrosols or at least some Hydrosols in

place of water.

 

If we begin the process with sterile products, odds are great there will

never be contamination .. but that's asking a bit too much when dealing

with cosmetic type products.

 

Beginning with sterile ingredients, including bottles and caps .. is

important .. its also important when we pouring Hydrosols from large

wholesale size containers into the smaller containers most folks use to

store or sell them.

 

I have NEVER used a preservative in any Hydrosol I sell .. they are

sterile UNLESS/UNTIL they are contaminated by the end user. When a

Hydrosol exits the still it is 100% sterile .. the barrels I use are

new from the manufacturer and sterile. They remain closed until we open

them to pump product out of the barrel and then they are placed in

sterile containers. Every 90 days they are tested at Superior Labs,

Inc., in Galloway, OH, an authorized testing agency holding Ohio EPA

Water Approval No. 890 and USDA Accreditation Number 3983. Folks can

test their Hydrosols there for $30 per test.

 

The last test results are 09 September 2005 .. we got behind the power

curve over the Christmas/New Year season .. but the latest test results

will be in hand next week and I have no doubt that the results will be

the same as we have seen over many years now. Results of the September

test were that they were MORE PURE than the acceptable standard for

drinking water. The standard for drinking water is a Plate Count of

bacteria as high as 500 per 100 ml of pure water .. the highest plate

count we have on any of our Hydrosols is 27 .. this is FAR MORE PURE

than even bottled drinking water found on the grocery shelves.

 

So .. considering the low cost of testing .. those who stock large

quantities of Hydrosols can afford to test them. Contact numbers, etc.,

for Superior Labs is at http://www.av-at.com/hydrosol.html

 

And .. the results of the tests prove that there is no need for a major

supplier who follows the correct procedures (as outlined above) to use a

preservative in Hydrosols. What happens after they are sold is another

matter .. but I'm still not going to start using preservatives in my

Hydrosols because customers don't want me to .. simple as that. ;-)

 

Folks might ask about refrigeration .. the answer is .. refrigeration

will help to slow the growth of critters .. but if there are no critters

to begin with .. refrigeration is not necessary. A couple of my buyers

won't buy Hydrosols in the summer because they believe that the heat

will harm them while they're being shipped across country. Not true ..

the Hydrosols have been exposed to boiling temperatures .. the only time

heat could be a negative would be if the Hydrosol was contaminated ..

then heat allows quicker bacterial/mold growth. I have no refrigerator

large enough to store 50 kilogram drums .. nor do the distillers .. but

the product is (at that time) sterile. I do, however, recommend end

users store their smaller bottles of Hydrosols in a refrigerator.

 

> For now, I'm off to go growl at the website selling GSE as a natural

> preservative for lotions. Grrr.....

 

Good luck .. bursting balloons is easier at a child's birthday party

than it is when dealing with folks who use the balloons as a basis for

their marketing campaigns. ;-)

 

> thanks again!

> -Tammy

 

Yes'm .. welcome fer'shur .. and y'all keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch .. http://www.AV-AT.com .. Wholesale/Retail GC Tested EO and

Hydrosols, Rose Products, and other goodies shipped from our store in

Downtown Friendsville, MD .. population 597.

[Guest guest]

>As of today .. there exists no SAFE, EFFECTIVE NATURAL Preservative.

 

Silver.

[Guest guest]

Whoops, I should have waited before I hit send ;-)

 

I also wanted to share something I found out recently... LuLu Lemon

has started using silver in some of their athletic clothes to prevent

the odor problem associated with the user of synthetic clothes...

very interesting.

 

http://www.lululemon.com/

 

-Josh

[Guest guest]

Since the topic came up, and I know folks are curious - here is the info

on 2 of the newest products in the world of natural preservatives:

Suprapein and Neopein

http://www.bio-botanica.com/articles/articles.asp#

 

From what myself and others I've talked to who have been working with

the Bio-Botanica " -pein " items have determined is: they do their job

preserving, and very little is needed, but they do each have a distinct

herbal scent (some more than others, Biopein being the smelliest), so

you have to work your fragrancing around that. Some things are easier

than others to do that with

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Chris,

I have found with Bopein can cause reactions. One " tester " broke out in

red rash on her face. I found the " scent " difficult to work with. I also

think some cosmetic chemists have questioned the results published by

Bio-Bontanica

 

Virginia

West Aussie

 

Christine Ziegler wrote:

> > From what myself and others I've talked to who have been working

> > with

> the Bio-Botanica " -pein " items have determined is: they do their job

> preserving, and very little is needed, but they do each have a

> distinct herbal scent (some more than others, Biopein being the

> smelliest), so you have to work your fragrancing around that. Some

> things are easier than others to do that with