Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 OK this is from an article on CNN.com today. This is a quote from an educator. " If we become more restrictive here, within half a block the kids can go purchase what they're interested in, " Hurley said. " One of our greatest concerns is they'll bring in the big beverage cups. You spill a 44-ounce drink and you have half a gallon of liquid to clean up. " Anyone see the problems in our schools? LOL http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/02/03/diet.school.food.ap/index.html Graham Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com Come and stick your nose in our business The Home of " Arizona Balm " the Natural Solution to Problem Dry Skin. Hand Made Soaps, Soy Wax Candles, Lip Balms and more Good Stuff Retail and Wholesale. http://TheGuideToAromatherapy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2006 Report Share Posted February 4, 2006 Having taught HS at both pulic and private schools in both MA & CA, I can attest to the fact that administrators are rarely ever concerned with actually educating anyone, let alone feeding them well. When I quit teaching once and for all, the comments I got directly from the Dean and the Principal were: " I don't blame you for leaving teaching. I'd never step foot in a classroom anymore either. " -The Principal " It's no wonder you're leaving. I think you're crazy for having worked as hard as you did. " -The Dean (This was partly in reference to having qualified for and competed in Nationals in Student Congress -- the extra curricular they required me to supervise but thought I was crazy for actually coaching it competitively and thereby bringing honor & prestige to the school, forget about the extra college application fodder & scholarship money my students gained.) Thanks guys. That meant a lot. - " Graham Sorenson " <graham Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:53 PM OT State of education in the USA OK this is from an article on CNN.com today. This is a quote from an educator. " If we become more restrictive here, within half a block the kids can go purchase what they're interested in, " Hurley said. " One of our greatest concerns is they'll bring in the big beverage cups. You spill a 44-ounce drink and you have half a gallon of liquid to clean up. " Anyone see the problems in our schools? LOL http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/02/03/diet.school.food.ap/index.html Graham Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com Come and stick your nose in our business The Home of " Arizona Balm " the Natural Solution to Problem Dry Skin. Hand Made Soaps, Soy Wax Candles, Lip Balms and more Good Stuff Retail and Wholesale. http://TheGuideToAromatherapy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 If we spent more time out side doing things that are physical for the most part we'd have a portion of the problem sacked. Not to mention stop eating things that are laden with sugar.. But everything has to have sugar in it or it tastes bad right.... If Americans retrained their taste buds to the lower sugar amounts they'd probably lose a whole lotta weight... Not to mention the salt and fat... But of course saying so doesn't make people want to do it... So we either die of consumption or we die of Consumption... Jennifer On Behalf Of Graham Sorenson Saturday, February 04, 2006 3:54 PM OT State of education in the USA OK this is from an article on CNN.com today. This is a quote from an educator. " If we become more restrictive here, within half a block the kids can go purchase what they're interested in, " Hurley said. " One of our greatest concerns is they'll bring in the big beverage cups. You spill a 44-ounce drink and you have half a gallon of liquid to clean up. " Anyone see the problems in our schools? LOL http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/02/03/diet.school.food.ap/index.html Graham Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com Come and stick your nose in our business The Home of " Arizona Balm " the Natural Solution to Problem Dry Skin. Hand Made Soaps, Soy Wax Candles, Lip Balms and more Good Stuff Retail and Wholesale. http://TheGuideToAromatherapy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 God Bless Teachers, cause they have one of the most challenging jobs balancing between the " desires " of the parents, The regulations of the state, The budgets that are almost non-existent for their pay, and the desire to help the children. Jennifer On Behalf Of Bonnie Walker Saturday, February 04, 2006 5:33 PM Re: OT State of education in the USA Having taught HS at both pulic and private schools in both MA & CA, I can attest to the fact that administrators are rarely ever concerned with actually educating anyone, let alone feeding them well. When I quit teaching once and for all, the comments I got directly from the Dean and the Principal were: " I don't blame you for leaving teaching. I'd never step foot in a classroom anymore either. " -The Principal " It's no wonder you're leaving. I think you're crazy for having worked as hard as you did. " -The Dean (This was partly in reference to having qualified for and competed in Nationals in Student Congress -- the extra curricular they required me to supervise but thought I was crazy for actually coaching it competitively and thereby bringing honor & prestige to the school, forget about the extra college application fodder & scholarship money my students gained.) Thanks guys. That meant a lot. - " Graham Sorenson " <graham Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:53 PM OT State of education in the USA OK this is from an article on CNN.com today. This is a quote from an educator. " If we become more restrictive here, within half a block the kids can go purchase what they're interested in, " Hurley said. " One of our greatest concerns is they'll bring in the big beverage cups. You spill a 44-ounce drink and you have half a gallon of liquid to clean up. " Anyone see the problems in our schools? LOL http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/02/03/diet.school.food.ap/index.html Graham Sorenson http://Luna-Aromatics.com Come and stick your nose in our business The Home of " Arizona Balm " the Natural Solution to Problem Dry Skin. Hand Made Soaps, Soy Wax Candles, Lip Balms and more Good Stuff Retail and Wholesale. http://TheGuideToAromatherapy.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2006 Report Share Posted February 5, 2006 Read carefully the paragraph that I copied to the list. Contained therein is the point that I was making, not the main story itself. :-) Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 ----- OK this is from an article on CNN.com today. This is a quote from an educator. " If we become more restrictive here, within half a block the kids can go purchase what they're interested in, " Hurley said. > True, but that can be used as a total copout. Schools that do restrict junk food and drink and serve whole good food thrive on it. See http://www.school-lunch.org What drives me up the wall is that Adelle Davis was reporting similar results way back in the sixties. Where good food comes in vandalism goes down, grades and attendance go up and everybody has a better time. Hallo school folks! It's not rocket science! Try it, eh? Ien in the Kootenays ******************************* Different things work for different people. To see what works for our ADD send a blank email to alexstory ******************************* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Perzackly! And whatever happened to setting an example? If parents, teachers and other leaders aren’t acting, well, virtuously for lack of a better term, then who are we kidding when we expect these kids to make wise choices? Dave What drives me up the wall is that Adelle Davis was reporting similar results way back in the sixties. Where good food comes in vandalism goes down, grades and attendance go up and everybody has a better time. Hallo school folks! It's not rocket science! _____ -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release 2/4/2006 -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release 2/4/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 >If we spent more time out side doing things that are physical for the most >part we'd have a portion of the problem sacked. Of course " physical education " is such a misnomer in our schools... going to bodywork school taught me that we learned almost zero about our bodies in P.E... when they replace soccer and square dancing with tai chi and feldenkrais, we'll be getting somewhere. >God Bless Teachers, cause Eh. After reading the Teenage Liberation Handbook, I'm very suspicious of teachers. You know, to become a therapist, you have to do your own mental self-healing work first, see a therapist, etc... to become ordained clergy, at least in the program I'm familiar with, you have to show that you're doing it for the right reasons, that you truly feel called, etc.... and etc... do teachers go through anything similar? Or do they giving teaching credentials to anyone who can pay the money and pass the classes? Sincere question. -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Sorry, had to reply again :-) > What drives me up the wall is that Adelle Davis > was reporting similar results way back in the > sixties. mmmHMMM. Have you read any John Holt? His books on education reform were published back then, and we could reprint whole passages in today's op-ed pages when they debate school/education issues and no one would know the difference--the problems and our approaches haven't changed one significant bit in four decades--and they would still all ignore him. -Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Some of the very best and very worst influences on my tender years were in the form of teachers. It seemed the majority of them could take the most fascinating topic and make it toxic with dullness. Some of them sparked my young mind with a fire that still hasn’t gone out. Dave >God Bless Teachers, cause Eh. After reading the Teenage Liberation Handbook, I'm very suspicious of teachers. _____ -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release 2/4/2006 -- Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/251 - Release 2/4/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 ________________________________ On Behalf Of Graham Sorenson Saturday, February 04, 2006 6:11 PM Re: OT State of education in the USA Read carefully the paragraph that I copied to the list. Contained therein is the point that I was making, not the main story itself. :-) Graham Well . . . I got your point, Graham. And 64 chuckles. :-) The fact that people here are anxious to talk about the deeper issues only points out that we do have a major educational crises. Many points are being made about poor nutrition, lack of teacher support/pay, new federal programs with no funding to back them up, education levies that get voted down (especially by people who no longer have kids in the public schools), abominable student/teacher ratios, and, the general insecurity/malaise of our current youth. ALL of the above contributes to the sorry state of affairs we find ourselves in. But, even more important, the kids themselves are rejecting school in alarming numbers. These are not stupid kids, in fact most of them excelled in their elementary years. They are rejecting much that doesn't ring true with their own belief systems and they see hypocrisy that they simply refuse to accept and submit to. Scholars are now exploring what they are calling " unschooling " . . . Intuitive learning vs. scholastic learning. Those of you who are struggling with a dropout in your family (and I know there are many) might get a great deal of insight from the book, " The Unschooled Mind " by Howard Gardner. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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