Guest guest Posted February 17, 2006 Report Share Posted February 17, 2006 On Behalf Of Butch Owen Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:18 AM Black Spruce (was Suzanne Catty's Dangerous Public Information Hey Ien, > I so love the education this list provides! Yep .. but we gotta be careful to distinguish twixt the good and the bad education offered. ;-) > I certainly will not slather my body with neat black spruce > oil, but I do wonder about this: Good it is .. and I'll bet a lot that Catty hasn't done it either. > Does black spruce oil really support the adrenal glands Not sure what support she is referring to .. I personally think she doesn't know either .. I think she's regurgitating theory. There are some untested/unproven theories (rumors?) that Black Spruce (Picea mariana) can have a positive effect on the Endocrine System by relieving Adrenal Fatigue .. which may be a factor in many conditions, including fibromyalgia, hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, premature menopause and other ailments. But this is not based on any solid evidence. Odds are that most modern humans experience pretty constant stress ... maybe even moreso than did our ancestors who only had to worry about fight or flight .. so relief of excess stress is good treatment. If we are relaxed and enjoy what we're doing .. then we can expect some relief from stress .. even if its just temporary. This will obviously decrease the release of certain chemicals that could be the cause of Adrenal Fatigue. <snipped for brevity> I think we might also need to discuss the *application* method before we can definitively allude to health benefits . . . We all know that massage can stimulate the adrenal system and be beneficial. Was the observation that backs this claim made after using black spruce in a massage oil? Is there a definite observable difference between the affects of massage with black spruce as opposed to without that has been well documented? I have not seen specific papers, and nothing appears in Martin's Plant Aromatics data, nor in any of my scientific databases. We have to remember that a lot of essential oil theory for health benefit and efficacy stems from herbalism . . . i.e., often *guessing* that the essential oil would have the same or more profound effects as the herb (which is usually taken internally as a tea or in capsule form and lends little supportive documentation relative to the essential oil). Promoting more profound effect could be attributed to again *guessing* that essential oils are more highly concentrated, therefore they *must* be more effective . .. . Not from actual research. I wouldn't dispute the *possibility* this oil's effectiveness, and I once got a wonderful blend from Henri Viaud that included P. mariana and others that *seemed* to lift my spirits and energy and make me feel better after traveling and feeling like my immune system was stressed, coming down with something. I also had a series of massages during this travel, and used this blend in the massage oil and also diffused. So . . . What could I *prove*? Nadda. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hey Ien, > I so love the education this list provides! Yep .. but we gotta be careful to distinguish twixt the good and the bad education offered. ;-) > I certainly will not slather my body with neat black spruce > oil, but I do wonder about this: Good it is .. and I'll bet a lot that Catty hasn't done it either. > Does black spruce oil really support the adrenal glands Not sure what support she is referring to .. I personally think she doesn't know either .. I think she's regurgitating theory. There are some untested/unproven theories (rumors?) that Black Spruce (Picea mariana) can have a positive effect on the Endocrine System by relieving Adrenal Fatigue .. which may be a factor in many conditions, including fibromyalgia, hypothyroidism, chronic fatigue syndrome, arthritis, premature menopause and other ailments. But this is not based on any solid evidence. Odds are that most modern humans experience pretty constant stress .. maybe even moreso than did our ancestors who only had to worry about fight or flight .. so relief of excess stress is good treatment. If we are relaxed and enjoy what we're doing .. then we can expect some relief from stress .. even if its just temporary. This will obviously decrease the release of certain chemicals that could be the cause of Adrenal Fatigue. The problem with Catty's comments are .. that she is extrapolating the possible or potential benefits of an EO and doing so without even the slightest bit of sound information .. I believe its all marketing hype and I sell Black Spruce. I believe that Black Spruce can possibly relieve mental and physical exhaustion .. to some degree .. IF .. we like the odor. It follows that this will relieve stress and anxiety. Some folks claim to have noticed relief from muscle aches and pains, aching joints and muscle spasms. I know that just sniffing Oregano can assist in this regard .. but I've not tried Black Spruce. > and fight winter blahs? If we like ANY Essential Oil .. we can fight the Winter Blahs. ;-) > I got a big bottle of it here that I have not done a > thing with yet. Get it out and sniff a bit .. I like the odor big time. ;-) > Ien in the Kootenays > ************************** > Stop. Breathe. Smile! > ~Padma ( my TV yoga teacher) > http://freegreenliving.com Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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