Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/19/2006 12:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, WoobeyQueen writes: Sorry I confused you, Hun. I am waiting to hear from list mom before I post anymore. The tea is very controversial with the FDA. It has wonderful properties for many things, including amazing results for a often fatal disease. No, it is all natural, nothing in it that can poison folks. I have the original recipe. There are many links on the web if you do a search on Eaaiac Tea or Rene Caisse. Since I got you confused, I sugest you check out http://www.essiacinfo.org/caisse.html to answer some of your questions. My training and information comes from a book published in 1988 Calling of an Angel, the story of Rene Caisse and Essiac. Hope this helps. (((Smiles))) Kaye . > Okay, I'm curious. What's with the FDA? They got a problem with tea? Is > there some ingredient in it that if used will poison folk? You're just > posting a recipe right? do you have the owner of the recipe's permission? > > Just color me confused. > > K > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/19/2006 1:56:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, pkginter writes: Tnak you so much, Pam: I am well aware of the FDA and making claims. I never, ever, use the word " cure. " If I did, the FDA would come down on me like " white on rice. " The alternative medicine group where I am Assistant Manager, has to be ever so cautious about this. The FDA could shut us down so quickly we would not even know what hit us! I am reluctant to post the recipe onsite, because I do not have permission from the source.A recipe from an unnamed source doesn't feel right to me. I would, however, be willing to share it offlist to members who are interested. That would keep me out of trouble, right? Members could make it themselves. I have no intention of ever trying to sell it. It seems a shame to be to have to be so cautious, when there are natural remedies out there that could help. There are many recipes floating over the internet, which aren't correct on this tea, it saddens me. I will do a search on the Easiac Tea, and check to see if this is the one I have. Thank you so much! (((Big Hugs))) Kaye > > You can post, discuss, prepare, taste, guzzle, any recipe that you > want, for tea or anything else...what you can't do is sell it and > make any medical claims about it, unless those medical claims have > been proven to be safe, and the efficacy of the product you're > selling has been proven and passed by the FDA. > > Basically, you can't sell any product as being a cure for (for > example) cancer--Essiac tea, or any other food or drug, without it > first being proven safe and effective against cancer and passed by > the FDA...just like those of us who make soap...we can make and sell > soap, but we can't make any medical claims, such as, this soap > prevents acne, or cures eczema, because that would be making a > medical claim, and the soap would then fall under the jurisdiction > of FDA guidelines. > > There have been many Essiac recipes posted, some on this list, no > problems....post away!! > > Pam in Gettysburg > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 In a message dated 2/19/2006 1:56:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, pkginter writes: > -- In , rosanne9 wrote: > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >A couple of years ago there was an incident with a wonderful > supplier of herbs, Jeans Greens, and her Forticel tea. The FDA went > nuts about it. I can understand Kaye's concern. > Thank you, Rosanne, for understanding my reluctance. I do not wish to seem mysterious, either. I am just very, very cautious! I read about the Forticel tea and the FDA. I do not wish to sell or profit from this Essiac Tea, but rather help others in understanding there ARE natural alternatives/remedies for so many of us! It is a choice all of us have to make. I, for one, would not like going through the horrors of chemotherapy when there are natural remedies that don't have the side effects. Again, it is my personal choice. I have a right to choose what and how I take resaponsibility for my own health care. (((Big Smiles))) Kaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 I am sticking my neck out here, BIG TIME!! I would love to hear from the pros, list mom and any other members who are knowledgeable about Rene Caisse's Essiac Tea. I have this recipe. I have been wanting to post about it for a long time, but very reluctant because of the FDA. If anyone feels this topic is considered SPAM,I please feel free to say so. I will not be offended. Hope I am not opening up a can of worms. <sigh>. I will not post anymore until I hear from management. Blessings! Kaye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Okay, I'm curious. What's with the FDA? They got a problem with tea? Is there some ingredient in it that if used will poison folk? You're just posting a recipe right? do you have the owner of the recipe's permission? Just color me confused. K On 2/19/06, Kaye <Kayee9 wrote: > > I am sticking my neck out here, BIG TIME!! I would love to hear from > the pros, list mom and any other members who are knowledgeable about > Rene Caisse's Essiac Tea. Cheers! > Kathleen Petrides > The Woobey Queen > Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Re: Essiac Tea?????? > Okay, I'm curious. What's with the FDA? They got a problem with > tea? Is > there some ingredient in it that if used will poison folk? You're just > posting a recipe right? do you have the owner of the recipe's > permission? > Just color me confused. > > K Hi everyone, A couple of years ago there was an incident with a wonderful supplier of herbs, Jeans Greens, and her Forticel tea. The FDA went nuts about it. I can understand Kaye's concern. I read about it on Susun Weed's forum. You can read the thread here: http://www.susunweed.com/weedforum/viewtopic.php?t=1780 & highlight=fda Warm regards, Rosanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 You can post, discuss, prepare, taste, guzzle, any recipe that you want, for tea or anything else...what you can't do is sell it and make any medical claims about it, unless those medical claims have been proven to be safe, and the efficacy of the product you're selling has been proven and passed by the FDA. Basically, you can't sell any product as being a cure for (for example) cancer--Essiac tea, or any other food or drug, without it first being proven safe and effective against cancer and passed by the FDA...just like those of us who make soap...we can make and sell soap, but we can't make any medical claims, such as, this soap prevents acne, or cures eczema, because that would be making a medical claim, and the soap would then fall under the jurisdiction of FDA guidelines. There have been many Essiac recipes posted, some on this list, no problems....post away!! Pam in Gettysburg -- In , rosanne9 wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > A couple of years ago there was an incident with a wonderful supplier of herbs, Jeans Greens, and her Forticel tea. The FDA went nuts about it. I can understand Kaye's concern. > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 I would love to know what is involved for Essiac Tea. No one in our family has cancer but I would like to know for future reference. I for one, do not want to face the horrors of chemo and radiation. I've seen that too many times to count! JanG in MI Kayee9 wrote: > In a message dated 2/19/2006 1:56:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, > pkginter writes: > > > Thank you, Rosanne, for understanding my reluctance. I do not wish to > seem > mysterious, either. I am just very, very cautious! I read about the > Forticel > tea and the FDA. I do not wish to sell or profit from this Essiac Tea, > but > rather help others in understanding there ARE natural > alternatives/remedies for > so many of us! It is a choice all of us have to make. I, for one, > would not > like going through the horrors of chemotherapy when there are natural > remedies > that don't have the side effects. Again, it is my personal choice. I > have a > right to choose what and how I take resaponsibility for my own health > care. > (((Big Smiles))) Kaye > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 My clients and I have just begun to use Essaic tea and the tinctured concentrate from Herbal Healer Academy. That is one of the academy's biggest products, they have very fresh herbs and sell the stainless bulk tea makers and the book " Calling of an Angel by Dr. Gary Glum. I really expect to see results with this formula. http://www.herbalhealer.com/essiac.html http://www.herbalhealer.com/ Diana of Dewberry Hill Kaye <Kayee9 wrote: I am sticking my neck out here, BIG TIME!! I would love to hear from the pros, list mom and any other members who are knowledgeable about Rene Caisse's Essiac Tea. I have this recipe. I have been wanting to post about it for a long time, but very reluctant because of the FDA. If anyone feels this topic is considered SPAM,I please feel free to say so. I will not be offended. Hope I am not opening up a can of worms. <sigh>. I will not post anymore until I hear from management. Blessings! Kaye The information contained in these e-mails is not a substitute for diagnosis and treatment by a qualified, licensed professional. Step By Step Instructions For Making Herbal Labna Cheese! So easy, SO yummy! http://www.aromaticsage.com/cz.htm To adjust your group settings (i.e. go no mail) see the following link: /join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 , Kayee9 wrote: > > In a message dated 2/19/2006 12:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, > WoobeyQueen writes: > > Sorry I confused you, Hun. I am waiting to hear from list mom before I post > anymore. Hi: I did a question a few months ago on the tea. The recipe is already on the internet. Just type it in under google and you will all the sites. At the time some of the people here also wrote and told me about what they thought...all positive. Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 , Kayee9 wrote: > > In a message dated 2/19/2006 12:09:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, > WoobeyQueen writes: > > Sorry I confused you, Hun. I am waiting to hear from list mom before I post > anymore. The tea is very controversial with the FDA. It has wonderful > properties for many things, including amazing results for a often fatal disease. Hi all, I am not sure as to all of the secrecy and pondering over this tea formula. The original formula has been available on the web and in books for several years. As long as one does not claim it to be a cure for any disease, then one can make it, use it and SELL it, to one's own heart's content! As a matter of fact, there are many herbal companies that do sell it, including mine! Here is my version of directions for preparation of the tea and these are based on the original formula that I have researched, but I am making no claims that this is the " perfect, original " formula. I believe that too many naive people are persuaded by hyped up advertising and inflated prices and general " hawgwarsh " . I stand by my formula, it is made with 100% organic ingredients (although I am not certified so cannot claim such on my label) and it is soothing to the intestines, if nothing else! If you would like pricing info, please email me privately as today is not ad day. Essiac ingredients (100% organic): Burdock root,c/s(Arctium lappa) Sheep Sorrel, powdered (Rumex acetosella) Slippery Elm bark, powdered (Ulmus fulva) Turkey Rhubarb root, powdered (Rheum palmatum) Supplies needed: 5 gallon stainless steel pot with lid 3 gallon stainless steel pot with lid Stainless steel fine mesh strainer Stainless steel spatula Stainless steel funnel or 2 cup glass measure 2 gallons sodium-free distilled water 12+ 16 oz amber glass bottles with air tight caps Preparation: Mix Essiac herbs thoroughly. Bring 2 gallons of sodium free distilled water to a rolling boil in 5 gallon pot with lid on. Stir in one cup (8oz) of Essiac formula. Replace lid and continue boiling for 10 minutes. Turn off stove. Scrape down sides of pot with spatula and stir mixture thoroughly. Replace lid. Allow pot to remain closed for 12 hours, then turn stove to full heat for 20 minutes. Turn off stove. Strain liquid into 3 gallon pot. Clean 5 gallon pot and strainer. Strain filtered liquid back into 5 gallon pot. Use funnel or glass measure to pour hot liquid into clean bottles immediately. Tighten lids. Allow bottles to cool and tighten lids again. Recipe makes approximately 1.5 gallons (184 oz.) Refrigerate. Essiac contains no preservative agents. If mold should develop discard immediately. Directions: Heat 4 tablespoons (2oz) of sodium free distilled water in a stainless steel pot. Add 4 tablespoons of Essiac liquid (shake bottle first.) Mix and drink. Take at bedtime on an empty stomach, at least 2 hours after eating. Do not increase dosage. I hope this clarifies the mystique and if you have any questions, just send me an email! Warm regards and continue to be, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2006 Report Share Posted February 20, 2006 Sorry All, In my original post the volumes of herbs got cut off when I pasted from my word doc. Here they are: 6 1/2 cups burdock root. c/s (Arctium Lappa) 16 oz. sheep sorrel pd. (Rumex Acetosella) 4 oz. slippery elm bk. pd. (Ulmus Fulva) 1 oz. turkey rhubarb pd. (Rheum Palmatum) c/s means " cut and sifted " pd. means " powdered " The burdock root is measured by volume. The sheep sorrel, slippery elm bark and turkey rhubarb are measured by weight. Don't ask me why, I did not create this formula Have a great day! Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 , Diana of Dewberry Hill <cozad76078 wrote: > > My clients and I have just begun to use Essaic tea and the tinctured concentrate from Herbal Healer Academy. That is one of the academy's biggest products, they have very fresh herbs and sell the stainless bulk tea makers and the book " Calling of an Angel by Dr. Gary Glum. I really expect to see results with this formula. My good herbalist friend has an Essiac Tea formula. She cured herself of stage 3 lymphoma using only herbs and prayer. She insists that it must be prepared per Dr. Glum's instructions as she studied with him. If it is not, it is not nearly as effective. It is a process, but well worth it http://angelaharris.com/herbal-therapy-info.php#essiactearth http://angelsherbs.com/Department/Dep4.html HTH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2006 Report Share Posted February 21, 2006 In a message dated 2/21/2006 9:12:37 AM Pacific Standard Time, jmhborne writes: Diana, I agree with you. I also use the formula used by the Herbal Healer Academy. There are many recipes floating around on the internet, but I refuse to use any other formula. Your good friend is very smart! Dr. Glum's book and instructions on making this formula is excellent! I know you and your clients will receive excellent results! I have never tinctured this formula, but I know how to tincture, so I may just try it! You gave me an excellent idea! Thank you. Blessed Be! Kaye > > , Diana of Dewberry Hill > <cozad76078 wrote: > > > >My clients and I have just begun to use Essaic tea and the tinctured > concentrate from Herbal Healer Academy. That is one of the academy's > biggest products, they have very fresh herbs and sell the stainless > bulk tea makers and the book " Calling of an Angel by Dr. Gary Glum. I > really expect to see results using this formula. > > > My good herbalist friend has an Essiac Tea formula. She cured herself > of stage 3 lymphoma using only herbs and prayer. She insists that it > must be prepared per Dr. Glum's instructions as she studied with him. > If it is not, it is not nearly as effective. It is a process, but well > worth it > http://angelaharris.com/herbal-therapy-info.php#essiactearth > http://angelsherbs.com/Department/Dep4.html > > HTH! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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