Guest guest Posted April 27, 2006 Report Share Posted April 27, 2006 At 12:01 PM 4/27/2006, you wrote: >Can you please explain to me what is sensitization? I am presuming it is >a sensitivity towards a particular oil. it is an immune system reaction. it is lifelong. you may read more about it at http://www.naturesgift.com/sensit.htm >The recipe Tea Tree, Lavender and Vitamin E is it good for pimples? it is, as butch and I have tried to say, dangerous to use. >Also does EO that everyone keeps writng about is it Essential Oils? yes. Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hey Mary, > Can you please explain to me what is sensitization? I am presuming > it is a sensitivity towards a particular oil. You must be on digest .. I sent this a few hours ago. Go to the site / click on " messages " in the left hand corner. > The recipe Tea Tree, Lavender and Vitamin E is it good for pimples? I doubt it. ;-) > Also does EO that everyone keeps writing about is it Essential Oils? Yep .. that's what it means. > Sorry to sound so naive. Nobody is born with this info .. that's why we have lists like this. > Thanks > Mary Welcome fer'shur. Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Ok folks, don't use my recipie. hehe! I've been schooled! Be well, Andy Robertson www.BlueMoonDesign.org Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 28, 2006 Report Share Posted April 28, 2006 Hi Andy, Please, on this issue, do feel " schooled " as in educated, not as in scolded We have at least 2 professionals on this list alone who are sensitized to lavender (including one who " schooled " you . They can't be anywhere near it any longer. Its terrible for anyone but for an Aromatherapist, Soaper, Chandler, Perfumer, etc .. that really SUX! The issue more than it being a drag for professional and crafty pursuits though is the problem and potential danger that it poses in day to day life! Its not just lavender that a person sensitized to lavender can have an issue with. The negative reaction can be triggered by something else that has certain chemical constituents that are present in lavender - so even say just walking through a mall with all the shops that have smelly things (natural or synthetic) wafting from them can be bad news! I won't even go into what happens if they go over to a lotion tester with something in it that sets them off - ugh! What a miserable thing to have to deal with. Heck, back in the days when I was carving and dressing candles we used to slather (fragrance) oils onto those candles - sometimes undiluted, certainly never well enough diluted, and although we had a set of rubber gloves we could use, I (and most everyone else there too) never did. Nowadays, knowing what I do now, I look back in horror at how careless I was with my exposure to those oils. I literally used to smell of the oils for days, even after showering! I am lucky I didn't develop a problem then, and I do my best to be sure I won't develop one now, and definitely do my best to dissuade anyone from using EO's in any manner that could end up doing them more harm than good in the end. Risks to having sensitization happen can be greatly reduced though by using EO's a little more cautiously. So with those things in mind we really try to stress to folks who want to get into making and using EO's and aromatherapy and natural perfumery, etc .. that more is not better when it comes to using EO's, less is actually just as effective (if not more even), safer and less costly to the pocketbook Have a great weekend - I hope you have good weather in your neck of the woods for dancing around the Maypole :-D *Smile* Chris (list mom) Jasmine & Orange Blossom Floral Waxes LAST DAYS TO ORDER AT PRE-BUY PRICES! <http://www.alittleolfactory.com> http://www.alittleolfactory.com On Behalf Of Silventar Ok folks, don't use my recipie. hehe! I've been schooled! Be well, Andy Robertson www.BlueMoonDesign.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 At 05:06 AM 8/28/2006, you wrote: >Would you please send your information on sensitization to the list or me >personally. I have a new Young Living distributor who wants to know what it >is. Many thanks!!!Peggy Not Butch... but I have first hand personal experience... Sensitization is an immune system response, where the immune system reacts to foreign material in the bloodstream. and, as one of my mentors said years ago " Sensitization is forever. " I became sensitized by using neat Lavender oil on broken skin... a setup DESIGNED to cause it. (But everyone says you can use lavender neat, right?) You won't know that it has happened 'while' it is happening. Only the next time you come in contact with the substance. It is possible to use a substance safely for months or years, and then boom... a reaction to it that you'd never expect. I'm one of the lucky ones...mine takes the form of contact dermatitis. Even being in the room where lavender is being poured will trigger it, as the airborne molecules come in contact with my skin. Others are more unfortunate; it causes respiratory problems which can lead to fast trips to the emergency room. at the very least, it is a constant irritant and ongoing problem. At worst it can be life threatening. Now, why do some people get sensitized and others not? We aren't sure. Atopic individuals (ie, those with histories of asthma or eczema) are more apt to suffer from it. What is the 'borderline " that you cross before it occurs? Again, we don't know. That will vary from individual to individual. We do know that the more diluted a substance is, the less apt it is to cause sensitization. It has been described as 'russian roulette'... you may get to play safely for years. You may hit the loaded chamber early on. Using the oils in appropriate LOW dilutions and avoiding their use on broken skin is the best preventative. Also avoiding the use of known, proven strong sensitizers in any topical application. When you KNOW a substance is a proven sensitizer...ie, lemon verbena, cinnamon bark, benzoin...the list goes on.. using it in skincare is irresponsible and dangerous. Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 When you KNOW a substance is a proven sensitizer..-.ie, lemon verbena, cinnamon bark, benzoin...the list goes on.. using it in skincare is irresponsible and dangerous. [Dave:] I agree so much! Even in making soap, a wash-off product, I use EOs sparingly. I think a lot of folks tend to use them as perfume, which is likely to cause problems sooner or later. I make one soap that has a lot of lavender oil in it, which people love, but for the most part I use less than Tbs per pound of oils. This allows the oil to have some benefit but it’s not enough to strongly scent the soap. I think people worry too much about scent. -- Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release 8/25/2006 -- Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release 8/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2006 Report Share Posted August 28, 2006 Thank you Marge.....I will pass your message on to her. I told her about the great suppliers here and the group. Hopeflly she will come off down her MLM high and see the facts about YL. Peggy Peggy Lowell McNaughton Soap www.LMsoap.com - Marge Clark Monday, August 28, 2006 8:35 AM Re: sensitization At 05:06 AM 8/28/2006, you wrote: >Would you please send your information on sensitization to the list or me >personally. I have a new Young Living distributor who wants to know what it >is. Many thanks!!!Peggy Not Butch... but I have first hand personal experience... Sensitization is an immune system response, where the immune system reacts to foreign material in the bloodstream. and, as one of my mentors said years ago " Sensitization is forever. " I became sensitized by using neat Lavender oil on broken skin... a setup DESIGNED to cause it. (But everyone says you can use lavender neat, right?) You won't know that it has happened 'while' it is happening. Only the next time you come in contact with the substance. It is possible to use a substance safely for months or years, and then boom... a reaction to it that you'd never expect. I'm one of the lucky ones...mine takes the form of contact dermatitis. Even being in the room where lavender is being poured will trigger it, as the airborne molecules come in contact with my skin. Others are more unfortunate; it causes respiratory problems which can lead to fast trips to the emergency room. at the very least, it is a constant irritant and ongoing problem. At worst it can be life threatening. Now, why do some people get sensitized and others not? We aren't sure. Atopic individuals (ie, those with histories of asthma or eczema) are more apt to suffer from it. What is the 'borderline " that you cross before it occurs? Again, we don't know. That will vary from individual to individual. We do know that the more diluted a substance is, the less apt it is to cause sensitization. It has been described as 'russian roulette'... you may get to play safely for years. You may hit the loaded chamber early on. Using the oils in appropriate LOW dilutions and avoiding their use on broken skin is the best preventative. Also avoiding the use of known, proven strong sensitizers in any topical application. When you KNOW a substance is a proven sensitizer...ie, lemon verbena, cinnamon bark, benzoin...the list goes on.. using it in skincare is irresponsible and dangerous. Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.6/428 - Release 8/25/06 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2006 Report Share Posted August 29, 2006 At 10:18 PM 8/28/2006, you wrote: >Thank you Marge.....I will pass your message on to her. I told her about >the great suppliers here and the group. Hopeflly she will come off down >her MLM high and see the facts about YL. Hope she can...but I think the collective experience will agree it's a case of 'you can lead a horse to water' especially since those highest in the MLM chain will loudly proclaim that the only reason people speak out against their methods is jealousy... Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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