Repost: some older oils and other questions.

[Guest guest]

Hello everybody,

 

I made this list of oils I still have, which were purchased back in

the vicinity of 1998-1999 (2 are from 2003, noted). The aromas of

these oils are still crisp and clean and beautiful

 

My question, however, is that though they still SMELL really good, I

have to wonder how safe and/or " useful " they are after all this time?

None of these are very large quantities (20ml at most), some are

actually just samples of maybe 2-10 drops, but if they are still good,

I would rather not throw them away if possible.

 

So if anyone can please just warn me about anything I should probably

give up on, please let me know.

 

Ambrette Seed, Bergamot, Black Pepper, Chamomile (roman),

CorianderCO2, Cubeb (piper cubeba), Frankincense, Jasmine abs.

(grandiflorum, Egypt), Jasmine abs. (grandiflorum, India), Jasmine

abs. (sambac, India), Lavender (turkish), Lavender (bulgaria) *2003,

Litsea Cubeba, Mandarin (green), Mandarin (red), NutmegC02, Oakmoss,

Oregano, Petitgrain, Rose Otto (10% in Jojoba), Musk Rose(Princess of

Nassau) (This ever going to be offered again? I'm almost afraid to

use it now!), Sandalwood, Tangerine *2003, Vetiver, West Indies Bay,

Ylang Ylang.

 

3 more quick questions if anyone can answer:

 

1. Does anyone know the whereabouts of Sherill Pociecha (Dyndelf

Aromatics) and/or Susan Renkel (Changes Within)? I've found

articles and references, but no working emails or other current

contact info. If anyone DOES have contact info, please let me know,

or feel free to give them my email (sadiira at dot com).

 

2. Two oils I have been looking for and cannot seem to find a

reasonable source of (they either require retail license or have a

minimum order requirement): Piper cubeba (the one I have is just a

sample) and Fokienia (Siam) wood <never smelled this one. If there

are problems I may not be aware of (safety or otherwise), please let

me know. If not, can anyone steer me toward a place I can purchase it

from? (without spending a small fortune on a company I'm not familiar

with?)

 

** Also, I wound up getting some Completely Denatured Alcohol (Formula

19, 190 proof) from a local pharmacy due to miscommunication, the

pharmacy being very busy, and my running late at the time. (I thought

I had been more specific on what I was looking for). Though I am

aware this is one of those " please avoid " alcohols, I wanted to know

if it is at least viable to use for my personal small-scale

experimenting/blending just for myself? I do not sell anything, I do

not make stuff for anyone else. I don't even know what I'm doing

anymore with perfumery, hence the " experimenting " thing. I read

alot of archive info, I do not need scientific information or chemical

analyses. I just want some opinion on whether it is feasible to use

for now? (I am in Pa, USA, if anyone can give me any tips on

purchasing organic or sda 39c or whatever else IS considered usable,

that would be much appreciated.)

 

Anyway, happy to be here, hoping to learn more.

 

Stay safe and well,

Kathy

 

(I posted this several days ago, but haven't received any replies.

I'd like to get started with some fun with blending!)

[Guest guest]

The oils you should not use for skin application when they are so old

are those with a lot of linalool, high in the pine's, and high in

d-limonene. I say " high " but that is not easy to be certain about as

aged tea tree contains only a few percent of d-limonene, yet is is a

skin sensitiser.

 

You don't need to dump those oils, you can still use them for room

fragrances, etc. That's how I use mine up and they are unlikely to

cause a bad reaction that way. Some of the aged oils can smell great,

but not on the skin please.

 

Re Piper cubeba: One of my favourite oils and very useful, but not

easy to get the real thing. A heck of a lot coming out of India is

cut with who knows what. The real deal is used by the food trade a

lot and so CO2 extracts should be ok, they certainly smell wonderful.

 

Re: Fokienia (Siam) wood: Should never used on the skin anyway as the

safety is completely unknown.

 

Re Denatured Alcohol.

This is excellent stuff for dissolving essential oils in as perfumes,

or even as antiseptics for things like spots and boils. Just don't

use it near a source of flame or a smoker for example, it can

ignite. You can also use it to extract garden herbs, but not for

internal use.

 

Martin Watt

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http://www.aromamedical.com

Your best source for none bullshit, accurate information in

aromatherapy.

 

, " Kathy " <sadiira wrote:

>

> Hello everybody,

>

> I made this list of oils I still have, which were purchased back in

> the vicinity of 1998-1999 (2 are from 2003, noted). The aromas of

> these oils are still crisp and clean and beautiful

>

> My question, however, is that though they still SMELL really good, I

> have to wonder how safe and/or " useful " they are after all this

time?

> None of these are very large quantities (20ml at most), some are

> actually just samples of maybe 2-10 drops, but if they are still

good,

> I would rather not throw them away if possible.

>

> So if anyone can please just warn me about anything I should

probably

> give up on, please let me know.

>

> Ambrette Seed, Bergamot, Black Pepper, Chamomile (roman),

> CorianderCO2, Cubeb (piper cubeba), Frankincense, Jasmine abs.

> (grandiflorum, Egypt), Jasmine abs. (grandiflorum, India), Jasmine

> abs. (sambac, India), Lavender (turkish), Lavender (bulgaria) *2003,

> Litsea Cubeba, Mandarin (green), Mandarin (red), NutmegC02, Oakmoss,

> Oregano, Petitgrain, Rose Otto (10% in Jojoba), Musk Rose(Princess

of

> Nassau) (This ever going to be offered again? I'm almost afraid to

> use it now!), Sandalwood, Tangerine *2003, Vetiver, West Indies Bay,

> Ylang Ylang.

>

[Guest guest]

<aromamedical wrote:

> The oils you should not use for skin application when they are so old

> are those with a lot of linalool, high in the pine's, and high in

> d-limonene.

 

> Re Piper cubeba: One of my favourite oils and very useful, but not

> easy to get the real thing. A heck of a lot coming out of India is

> cut with who knows what. The real deal is used by the food trade a

> lot and so CO2 extracts should be ok, they certainly smell wonderful.

>

> Re: Fokienia (Siam) wood: Should never used on the skin anyway as the

> safety is completely unknown.

>

> Re Denatured Alcohol.

> This is excellent stuff for dissolving essential oils in as perfumes,

> or even as antiseptics for things like spots and boils. Just don't

> use it near a source of flame or a smoker for example, it can

> ignite. You can also use it to extract garden herbs, but not for

> internal use.

>

> Martin Watt

> -------------------------------

> http://www.aromamedical.com

> Your best source for none bullshit, accurate information in

 

 

Thank you very much for the response!

 

Now to find that elusive Cubeb stuff =)

Anyone?

 

I would still like to find some Fokienia wood as well, for a diffuser

mainly, but when I make a massage blend, it usually comes out to about

2% total EO's in a carrier, in which case one specific oil is most

likely about .005% or so of the total product. lol (I am just a tad

over-zealous in the safety thing I guess - my last blend was exactly

2.08% EO.) =) So if I like it, I may try a drop or two and patch test.