Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 I usually don't chime in, but in this case I feel the need. Whoever made this statement needs some clarification: " Anyone who is offering anything that is to heal or provide health benefits should take a good long look at the Hypocratic oath. " DO NO HARM " Making unvalidated claims does harm as does dispensing information that has not been validated. Blanket statements like: Essential oils are taken directly into the blood stream; they have a positive effect on blood circulation, helping to bring oxygen and nutrients to the tissues whilst assisting in the disposal of carbon dioxide and other waste materials. Are rubbish and I don't think it is sarcasm to say so. " OK- here it is! It is the MASSAGE that has the positive effects on blood circulation and removal of waste products of normal metabolism. Blood & lymphatic fluid are pushed into muscle tissue & constricted joints that are being stretched to bring in a supply of fresh oxygenated blood while helping move out byproducts of normal bodily functions. The essential oil in whatever base cream or oil the practitioner is using is just icing on the cake. Most men I work on don't even like putting any scents into the base cream I use, but they still get the wonderful benefits of bodywork. Women tend to be more open-minded about essential oils and the citrus, floral, spicy or woodsy scent they choose to put into their massage cream makes them happy for whatever reason, but it is the bodywork itself that gives the most healthful benefits. OK- I'm stepping down now-hopefully not on any toes. Best to all! Sharon Switzer- Massage Therapist US Naval Academy, Annapolis, Maryland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Hey guys... I'm a message therapist too, I think if you look at the skin as the largest organ and see that anything that we put on our bodies somehow effects us (The patches that have been introduced prove that putting something on the skin will carry it through the blood.) I do believe there are people out there that are " want to get your money " but stating that all of what they say is bunk now may be true, however 5 years down the road there may be a " revolution " in medicine because these claims can be backed up... But that's 5 years down the road... Or ten... Anyway... I think the point is that we have all seen people that claim things that can't be backed up by " scientific means " yet. I for one know that if you put peppermint EO neat, on your skin you can feel it. (it's a rubifacient... It brings the blood to the surface, to say that it doesn't get into the blood stream and influence your cells in some way is not completely true.) If that was the case what is the use in using any fat as a moisturizer, and what use is using vitamin E to help heal chapped skin? Putting stuff on our bodies influences our brain... The brain is the part of the body we know oh so little about...scents can help a person to relax which invokes a boost in immune response...so to say that aroma therapy massage doesn't help at all is not true.... Aromas help, and massage help... So together done wisely the effects can amplify each other...I think the point is that there are people out there that will believe that the massage itself can cure what ever, and that the oils themselves can cure what ever... Cures come from a combination of things.... And sometimes just the belief that they can be cured is enough, sometimes it's not... To say that one part of the combination itself is the cure would be discounting the others, and it is with the others that the cure is possible... Unfortunately until all of us become lab rats and see for ourselves how essential oils effect change in cells some of us are not going to believe any of it... To each his own... Jennifer ---- Sharon Switzer 06/19/06 08:33:15 aromatherapy massage I usually don't chime in, but in this case I feel the need. Whoever made this statement needs some clarification: " Anyone who is offering anything that is to heal or provide health benefits should take a good long look at the Hypocratic oath. " DO NO HARM " Making unvalidated claims does harm as does dispensing information that has not been validated. Blanket statements like: Essential oils are taken directly into the blood stream; they have a positive effect on blood circulation, helping to bring oxygen and nutrients to the tissues whilst assisting in the disposal of carbon dioxide and other waste materials. Are rubbish and I don't think it is sarcasm to say so. " OK- here it is! It is the MASSAGE that has the positive effects on blood circulation and removal of waste products of normal metabolism. Blood & lymphatic fluid are pushed into muscle tissue & constricted joints that are being stretched to bring in a supply of fresh oxygenated blood while helping move out byproducts of normal bodily functions. The essential oil in whatever base cream or oil the practitioner is using is just icing on the cake. Most men I work on don't even like putting any scents into the base cream I use, but they still get the wonderful benefits of bodywork. Women tend to be more open-minded about essential oils and the citrus, floral, spicy or woodsy scent they choose to put into their massage cream makes them happy for whatever reason, but it is the bodywork itself that gives the most healthful benefits. OK- I'm stepping down now-hopefully not on any toes. Best to all! Sharon Switzer- Massage Therapist US Naval Academy, Annapolis, Maryland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2006 Report Share Posted June 19, 2006 Jennifer - How 'bout peanut butter? What I mean is, wouldn't it depend on the size of the molecules whether or not something can pass through the skin? I think that the stuff that patches have on them have very small molecules and do what they are supposed to do transdermally. I also think that there are " surface cures " . Maybe peanut butter is one. Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit Reading Terminal Market Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Well said. Exactly the point. Joanne , " Sharon Switzer " <switzer wrote: > > I usually don't chime in, but in this case I feel the need. Whoever > made this statement needs some clarification: > > " Anyone who is offering anything that is to heal or provide health > benefits should take a good long look at the Hypocratic oath. " DO NO > HARM " > > Making unvalidated claims does harm as does dispensing information > that has not been validated. Blanket statements like: > > Essential oils are taken directly into the blood stream; they > have a positive effect on blood circulation, helping to bring oxygen and > > nutrients to the tissues whilst assisting in the disposal > of carbon dioxide and other waste materials. > > Are rubbish and I don't think it is sarcasm to say so. " > > OK- here it is! It is the MASSAGE that has the positive effects on > blood circulation and removal of waste products of normal metabolism. > Blood & lymphatic fluid are pushed into muscle tissue & constricted > joints that are being stretched to bring in a supply of fresh oxygenated > blood while helping move out byproducts of normal bodily functions. The > essential oil in whatever base cream or oil the practitioner is using is > just icing on the cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 , " Jennifer " <pixieladie wrote: > > Hey guys... I'm a message therapist too, I think if you look at the skin as > the largest organ and see that anything that we put on our bodies somehow > effects us (The patches that have been introduced prove that putting > something on the skin will carry it through the blood.) A lot of research on transepidermal delivery of drugs is behind those patches and the chemical vehicles that do penetrate the skin. The job of your skin is to keep things out. The thought that anything you rub on, essential oil or whatever gets into your blood should be a scary thought. I for one know that if you put peppermint EO > neat, on your skin you can feel it. (it's a rubifacient... It brings the > blood to the surface, to say that it doesn't get into the blood stream and > influence your cells in some way is not completely true.) No one disagrees with that. Of course you can feel it. And if you put cinnamon neat onto your skin you will feel it. It can also cause burns and blisters. The disagreement is with those statements that promise that essential oils perform a function that has simply not been proven to be true. But for sure the following statement is not true. >>>Essential oils are taken directly into the blood stream; they >>>>have a positive effect on blood circulation, helping to bring >>>>oxygen and nutrients to the tissues whilst assisting in the >>>disposal of carbon dioxide and other waste materials. > > case what is the use in using any fat as a moisturizer, and what use is > using vitamin E to help heal chapped skin? Fat is not used as a moisturizer. It is used as an emollient and barrier to keep moisture in. It can also give the skin a more moist appearance. Most " moisturizing " products contain water, to moisturize and an oil or wax to keep the applied moisture in the skin. That is the basis of lotion and cream. Putting oil or " fat " on your skin will not cause it to contain more water, it will act as a barrier to keep your skin from loosing additional water. Moisture=Water Putting stuff on our bodies > influences our brain... The brain is the part of the body we know oh so > little about...scents can help a person to relax which invokes a boost in > immune response...so to say that aroma therapy massage doesn't help at all > is not true.... Aromas help, and massage help... So together done wisely the To my knowledge, no one has made that statement. No one is disputing aromatherapy or the benefits of theraputic massage. I would bet that everyone on this list, myself included, has an extensive collection of essential oils. The dispute is when false claims are made as to the medical benefits of essential oils. The dispute is also that giving the impression that liberal use of some essential oils is harmless is downright dangerous. > effects can amplify each other...I think the point is that there are people > out there that will believe that the massage itself can cure what ever, and > that the oils themselves can cure what ever... Cures come from a > combination of things.... And sometimes just the belief that they can be > cured is enough, sometimes it's not... To say that one part of the > combination itself is the cure would be discounting the others, and it is > with the others that the cure is possible... Not disputed. Again, the issue is in the deliberate misleading by false statements in an attempt to sell product. > > Unfortunately until all of us become lab rats and see for ourselves how > essential oils effect change in cells some of us are not going to believe > any of it... To each his own... > > Jennifer > However, those of us who have chosen to become lab rats will continue to chime in when we see blatantly false and potentially dangerous information dispensed. Joanne Lab Rat and proud of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Hello Jennifer: I agree with you 100%! To each his own. I am a firm believer in Aroma Massage. Some do not look to massage therapists has healers but in my opinion you work magic! I have seen doctors for all sorts of ailments in my lifetime and none have helped me the way my massage therapist has. I have found that using essential oil in my massages helps even more whether it's all in my head or not. I feel great afterwards and enjoy the fragrances. Keep up the good work. Someday people will realize that massage therapy is a wonderful alternative form of healing that doesn't have nasty side effects like all the prescription drugs doctors pump into us do. Sincerely, Debbie , " Jennifer " <pixieladie wrote: > > Hey guys... I'm a message therapist too, I think if you look at the skin as > the largest organ and see that anything that we put on our bodies somehow > effects us (The patches that have been introduced prove that putting > something on the skin will carry it through the blood.) I do believe there > are people out there that are " want to get your money " but stating that all > of what they say is bunk now may be true, however 5 years down the road > there may be a " revolution " in medicine because these claims can be backed > up... But that's 5 years down the road... Or ten... Anyway... I think the > point is that we have all seen people that claim things that can't be backed > up by " scientific means " yet. I for one know that if you put peppermint EO > neat, on your skin you can feel it. (it's a rubifacient... It brings the > blood to the surface, to say that it doesn't get into the blood stream and > influence your cells in some way is not completely true.) If that was the > case what is the use in using any fat as a moisturizer, and what use is > using vitamin E to help heal chapped skin? Putting stuff on our bodies > influences our brain... The brain is the part of the body we know oh so > little about...scents can help a person to relax which invokes a boost in > immune response...so to say that aroma therapy massage doesn't help at all > is not true.... Aromas help, and massage help... So together done wisely the > effects can amplify each other...I think the point is that there are people > out there that will believe that the massage itself can cure what ever, and > that the oils themselves can cure what ever... Cures come from a > combination of things.... And sometimes just the belief that they can be > cured is enough, sometimes it's not... To say that one part of the > combination itself is the cure would be discounting the others, and it is > with the others that the cure is possible... > > Unfortunately until all of us become lab rats and see for ourselves how > essential oils effect change in cells some of us are not going to believe > any of it... To each his own... > > Jennifer > > ---- > > Sharon Switzer > 06/19/06 08:33:15 > > aromatherapy massage > > I usually don't chime in, but in this case I feel the need. Whoever > made this statement needs some clarification: > > " Anyone who is offering anything that is to heal or provide health > benefits should take a good long look at the Hypocratic oath. " DO NO > HARM " > > Making unvalidated claims does harm as does dispensing information > that has not been validated. Blanket statements like: > > Essential oils are taken directly into the blood stream; they > have a positive effect on blood circulation, helping to bring oxygen and > > nutrients to the tissues whilst assisting in the disposal > of carbon dioxide and other waste materials. > > Are rubbish and I don't think it is sarcasm to say so. " > > OK- here it is! It is the MASSAGE that has the positive effects on > blood circulation and removal of waste products of normal metabolism. > Blood & lymphatic fluid are pushed into muscle tissue & constricted > joints that are being stretched to bring in a supply of fresh oxygenated > blood while helping move out byproducts of normal bodily functions. The > essential oil in whatever base cream or oil the practitioner is using is > just icing on the cake. Most men I work on don't even like putting any > scents into the base cream I use, but they still get the wonderful > benefits of bodywork. Women tend to be more open-minded about essential > oils and the citrus, floral, spicy or woodsy scent they choose to put > into their massage cream makes them happy for whatever reason, but it is > the bodywork itself that gives the most healthful benefits. OK- I'm > stepping down now-hopefully not on any toes. > Best to all! > Sharon Switzer- Massage Therapist US Naval Academy, Annapolis, Maryland > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2006 Report Share Posted June 20, 2006 Yuck, that's gross. Althougn I have heard of pumpkin facials. Don't know what it does, but it isn't cheap. Actually, liposomes are one of the vehicles used for penetrating skin. Another item that is getting a lot of attention is something called a " bucky ball " . They look like little geodesic domes (hence the bucky name). They are considered nanotechnology. Funny how something can show up on Star Trek, and a few years we are seeing it in our products. Anyone remember the " nanites " episode. Joanne In , " Lynette Manteau " <terralyn27 wrote: > > Jennifer - How 'bout peanut butter? What I mean is, wouldn't it depend on the size of the molecules whether or not something can pass through the skin? I think that the stuff that patches have on them have very small molecules and do what they are supposed to do transdermally. I also think that there are " surface cures " . Maybe peanut butter is one. > Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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