Absorption II ** Was: EO Info and Disinfo and Myths

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Hi Lisa,

 

I'm going to comment on this one too. What you have done below is to

take Marge's comments TOTALLY out of context .. and I don't understand

what you hoped to gain from doing so! Butch

 

Marge and Wunder Budder wrote:

 

>>>because they can be irritants, photosensitizers, or sensitizers. Three

>>>separate risks, and not all oils fit into any of the above categories.

>

> Two separate issues. Yes, there are oils that are skin sensitizers, but

> that is a separate issue from wether or not oils enter the bloodstream

> when applied topically.

 

Her reply was in response to: " If topical applications do not enter the

bloodstream, why are certain oils not recommended to be used on the

skin? " UNQUOTE

 

>>>if it is so easy for medications to enter the skin, why aren't there

>>>patches for EVERY condition? Because it is very difficult to 'force' a

>>>foreign substance into the skin deeply enough for it to have an effect.

>

> Allopathic medications work best when taken orally. Again, two separate

> issues.

 

Actually .. most work better when injected .. but Marge's reply was in

response to: " And why in the allopathic world are there " patches " for

various conditions? " UNQUOTE

 

>>>Why don't you dissolve when you take a bath or shower from all that water

>>>penetrating your skin, getting into the blood stream and all your organs

>>>and making you melt, like a sugar cube?

>

> Huh? Where is the correlation between skin melting and oils penetrating the

> skin?

 

It is NOT about " skin melting " it is about skin being water RESISTANT!

 

>>>seems to me if outside liquids entered the skin easily, we would absorb

>>>water far more readily than we do the essential oils or carrier oils.

>

> Our skin does absorb water.

 

Only to a very shallow level .. but that is not so important.

 

>>>And why is everyone convinced that the eo's enter the skin whole, but

>>>aren't concerned that the carrier oils do? Seems to me that both would

>>>have to... or neither.

>

> I never said I didn't think that carrier oils were absorbed into the skin.

> I think that most things you put on your skin can be absorbed. Which is

> one of the reasons why I don't use chemical cleaners, most make-up, synthetic

> lotions, etc.

 

Some organic cold pressed oils that are not commonly used as " carrier "

oils can ENHANCE absorption of CERTAIN chemicals.

 

Also important to this issue is the information Chris posted from the

Department of Health and Human Services training program .. in part:

 

It stated that even some toxic chemicals don't penetrate well ..

 

> For example, a pesticide such as Malathion, which easily penetrates

> the stratum corneum, moves quickly through the other layers of the

> skin and is rapidly absorbed into the bloodstream. DDT, another type

> of pesticide, does not easily penetrate the stratum corneum, so the

> rate of absorption is much slower.

 

I agree that it states that BOTH penetrate .. but other tests have shown

that the volume and term of exposure to DDT determines how deeply it

will absorb .. this also holds true for many other toxic chemicals.

 

It goes on to say ....

 

> The condition of the skin. An intact stratum corneum (epidermis)

> is an effective barrier to absorption of some toxic chemicals. However,

> physical damage to the protective barrier, such as a cut or abrasion,

> allows toxic substances to penetrate the epidermis and enter the dermis

> where they more readily enter the bloodstream and are carried to other

> parts of the body.

 

Nothing new here .. for all the years I've been in this business those

in the know have said .. DO NOT use EO on broken skin!

 

And it read .. regarding variables that must be considered:

 

> The chemical make up of the substance. Inorganic chemicals and

> substances are not easily absorbed through intact, healthy skin (such

> as cadmium, lead, mercury, and chromium. Organic chemicals dissolved in

> water do not easily penetrate the skin because the skin is impermeable

> to water. However, organic solvents, such as paint thinner or gasoline,

> are easily absorbed through the epidermis.

 

So .. even some organic (toxic) solvents are not readily absorbed.

 

And .. as I wrote above ...

 

> Increasing the concentration of the toxic substance or the

> exposure time can increase the rate or amount of material absorbed.

 

Again .. I ask for even the slightest bit of support for an argument

that whole essential oils .. NOT SOME of the chemical constituents of

some essential oils .. can absorb to a level that they can enter the

bloodstream.

 

I'm not ready to sit back and allow the new folks to NOT have enough

credible information upon which to base a rational decision in this

matter.

 

Those who are not willing to provide some support for their position

should not go away mad .. just go away. ;-) The reason for this

statement is in the subject line above .. following Was:

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com