Childproof/Idiot Proof Packaging & Warnings

[Guest guest]

Hi Marge,

 

I have, before you mentioned this, thought about getting true

" childproof " designed caps for my oils. Having the little ones around is

what made me keen to that concern, and this just gives me additional

incentive to make that packaging upgrade. Safety and CYA.

 

You bring up a great point about the labels too. I put on my labels (of

everything from supplies to finished product) warnings like : keep out

of the reach of children (or supervise children, whichever is more

applicable), keep away from pets, keep out of eyes, dilute before use,

do not eat, if it irritates you stop using it, etc .. I like to call

many of them the DUH cautions.

 

Since a small label can only fit so much information, and apparently

those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany each oil

purchased.

 

Things to keep us thinking ....

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

Marge Clark

 

<Snipped>

Orifice reducers don't count as 'childproof/adult friendly' packaging.

 

Our labels already say 'for external use only', 'keep away from

children'

and a lot of extra warnings on the Wintergreen.

 

I think our problem was that the LABEL doesn't warn against drinking the

 

bottle. we don't SAY 'harmful or poisonous if swallowed'... if

swallowed,

drink water and call your physician' etc.

 

I made the mistake of under estimating human stupidity, I guess.

 

I have looked at the labels of a LOT of other suppliers. NONE have the

basic safety information all of ours do.

 

<snipped>

 

I spent so much time cautioning folks about its long term use as a pain

reliever ... I never THOUGHT to tell 'em don't let your kids drink it. "

 

I should have.

 

Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals

Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos

<http://www.naturesgift.com>

[Guest guest]

I always warn my students that if something smells like food,

someone's child will eat it. I had a panicked call from a customer

who's child ate a lotion stick. I was surprised she would get past

the first bite, and the mother didn't really see it as something

that had to be kept out of the kids reach, because the child was old

enough to know it wasn't food. But when I think back, I remember

taking a taste of the minty scented paste we used in art class in

grade school. So you can never underestimate the curiosity of

children.

Joanne

 

, " Christine Ziegler "

<chrisziggy wrote:

>

> Hi Marge,

> You bring up a great point about the labels too. I put on my

labels (of

> everything from supplies to finished product) warnings like : keep

out

> of the reach of children (or supervise children, whichever is more

> applicable), keep away from pets, keep out of eyes, dilute before

use,

> do not eat, if it irritates you stop using it, etc .. I like to

call

> many of them the DUH cautions.

[Guest guest]

At 09:51 AM 6/30/2006, you wrote:

 

>Since a small label can only fit so much information, and apparently

>those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

>printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany each oil

>purchased.

 

won't do it. MUST be on the label... " front label and back label " ... how

many small eo bottles have room for two labels?

 

 

 

 

 

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Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos

<http://www.naturesgift.com>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marge,

 

I know that when it comes to small bottles for cosmetics, the way to get

around having everything that is usually supposed to be on a label on a

tiny label is having the item packaged in a box. In that case something

like the ingredients are allowed to go on the box instead of the label

that is on the actual bottle. Since what they seem to be really uppity

about is the exact cautions & placement on the bottle itself - maybe a

box can be used and all the basic info about the oil on the box. Then

the label on the actual bottle can contain the name of what is in the

bottle and the mandatory poison caution ... ?

 

Then there are those professionally printed fold out labels (I believe

Rosanne mentioned those) .... but then we're talking major investment in

the minimum run needed for each label (at least 1,000 or more, at least

a nickel each) - and with our inventories and offerings .. ::long low

whistle::

 

Obviously I don't know the answer here *lol*, but the tossing out of

ideas is a good thing!

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

Dilute It Yourself & Save $$$!

Virgin Hempseed Liquid Soap Base

http://www.alittleolfactory.com/liquidsoapbase.htm

 

 

 

Marge Clark

 

At 09:51 AM 6/30/2006, you wrote:

 

>Since a small label can only fit so much information, and apparently

>those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

>printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany each oil

>purchased.

 

won't do it. MUST be on the label... " front label and back label " ... how

 

many small eo bottles have room for two labels?

 

Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals

Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos

<http://www.naturesgift.com>

[Guest guest]

>but then we're talking major investment in

>the minimum run needed for each label

If this consumer safety department do decide to get heavy with other

suppliers, then it might be an idea to form a label buying co-op so

everyone gets a standard warning label/leaflet. You could ask the

consumer safety people for their advice and approval. I am sure they

are in favor of something that would save them chasing the tails of

numerous AT suppliers.

 

In the European label laws I think you are allowed to have

an " attached " label on the bottle. For example one of those small

folded leaflets with a narrow self adhesive strip down it which a

customer can peel off without tearing the existing bottle label.

 

Just a thought

Martin

 

, " Christine Ziegler "

<chrisziggy wrote:

>

> Hi Marge,

>

> I know that when it comes to small bottles for cosmetics, the way

to get

> around having everything that is usually supposed to be on a label

on a

> tiny label is having the item packaged in a box. In that case

something

> like the ingredients are allowed to go on the box instead of the

label

> that is on the actual bottle. Since what they seem to be really

uppity

> about is the exact cautions & placement on the bottle itself -

maybe a

> box can be used and all the basic info about the oil on the box.

Then

> the label on the actual bottle can contain the name of what is in

the

> bottle and the mandatory poison caution ... ?

>

> Then there are those professionally printed fold out labels (I

believe

> Rosanne mentioned those) .... but then we're talking major

investment in

> the minimum run needed for each label (at least 1,000 or more, at

least

> a nickel each) - and with our inventories and offerings .. ::long

low

> whistle::

>

> Obviously I don't know the answer here *lol*, but the tossing out of

> ideas is a good thing!

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

>

> Dilute It Yourself & Save $$$!

> Virgin Hempseed Liquid Soap Base

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com/liquidsoapbase.htm

>

>

>

> Marge Clark

>

> At 09:51 AM 6/30/2006, you wrote:

>

> >Since a small label can only fit so much information, and

apparently

> >those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

> >printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany

each oil

> >purchased.

>

> won't do it. MUST be on the label... " front label and back

label " ... how

>

> many small eo bottles have room for two labels?

>

> Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare

Professionals

> Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and

Videos

> <http://www.naturesgift.com>

>

[Guest guest]

OHHHHH my... You know... You can only do so much and then it's up to the

consumer to use the product in a reasonable manner. I think putting on

there that we are not liable for any damage caused by uses other than

specified... Might help...

 

But I just put the If you develop rash or irritation please discontinue use.

If rash persists please consult a physician. I don't want to have to grill

my customers about using soap as it was intended and not for some other

thing and then blame me for it... Cause they are stupid..

 

Jennifer

 

----

 

Christine Ziegler

06/30/06 09:31:41

 

Childproof/Idiot Proof Packaging & Warnings

 

Hi Marge,

 

I have, before you mentioned this, thought about getting true

" childproof " designed caps for my oils. Having the little ones around is

what made me keen to that concern, and this just gives me additional

incentive to make that packaging upgrade. Safety and CYA.

 

You bring up a great point about the labels too. I put on my labels (of

everything from supplies to finished product) warnings like : keep out

of the reach of children (or supervise children, whichever is more

applicable), keep away from pets, keep out of eyes, dilute before use,

do not eat, if it irritates you stop using it, etc .. I like to call

many of them the DUH cautions.

 

Since a small label can only fit so much information, and apparently

those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany each oil

purchased.

 

Things to keep us thinking ....

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

Marge Clark

 

<Snipped>

Orifice reducers don't count as 'childproof/adult friendly' packaging.

 

Our labels already say 'for external use only', 'keep away from

children'

and a lot of extra warnings on the Wintergreen.

 

I think our problem was that the LABEL doesn't warn against drinking the

 

bottle. we don't SAY 'harmful or poisonous if swallowed'... if

swallowed,

drink water and call your physician' etc.

 

I made the mistake of under estimating human stupidity, I guess.

 

I have looked at the labels of a LOT of other suppliers. NONE have the

basic safety information all of ours do.

 

<snipped>

 

I spent so much time cautioning folks about its long term use as a pain

reliever ... I never THOUGHT to tell 'em don't let your kids drink it. "

 

I should have.

 

Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals

Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos

<http://www.naturesgift.com>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

>You can only do so much and then it's up to the consumer

Accepted, BUT, it is now clear that the vast majority of US

aromatherapy suppliers have not been complying with your own laws

since this trade began. This has happened because so many have jumped

on the supply gravy train as an easy way to make cash. Most of these

people have not bothered to investigate anything on safety or your

own trading laws. To this day there are hundreds of web sites

selling known dangerous oils (without any kind of warning as they are

required to by law). So yes there is a limit to what you can do, but

that limit has nowhere near been reached in the case of suppliers in

the USA or Canada. How the heck can the public know the safe use of

an essential oil if the suppliers don't?

 

Martin Watt

http://www.aromamedical.com

 

, " Jennifer " <pixieladie

wrote:

>

> OHHHHH my... You know... You can only do so much and then it's up

to the

> consumer to use the product in a reasonable manner. I think

putting on

> there that we are not liable for any damage caused by uses other

than

> specified... Might help...

>

> But I just put the If you develop rash or irritation please

discontinue use.

> If rash persists please consult a physician. I don't want to have

to grill

> my customers about using soap as it was intended and not for some

other

> thing and then blame me for it... Cause they are stupid..

>

> Jennifer

>

> ----

>

> Christine Ziegler

> 06/30/06 09:31:41

>

> Childproof/Idiot Proof Packaging &

Warnings

>

> Hi Marge,

>

> I have, before you mentioned this, thought about getting true

> " childproof " designed caps for my oils. Having the little ones

around is

> what made me keen to that concern, and this just gives me additional

> incentive to make that packaging upgrade. Safety and CYA.

>

> You bring up a great point about the labels too. I put on my labels

(of

> everything from supplies to finished product) warnings like : keep

out

> of the reach of children (or supervise children, whichever is more

> applicable), keep away from pets, keep out of eyes, dilute before

use,

> do not eat, if it irritates you stop using it, etc .. I like to call

> many of them the DUH cautions.

>

> Since a small label can only fit so much information, and apparently

> those caution notices are insufficient , maybe I need to consider

> printing up the warnings on paper inserts or tags to accompany each

oil

> purchased.

>

> Things to keep us thinking ....

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

>

>

> Marge Clark

>

> <Snipped>

> Orifice reducers don't count as 'childproof/adult friendly'

packaging.

>

> Our labels already say 'for external use only', 'keep away from

> children'

> and a lot of extra warnings on the Wintergreen.

>

> I think our problem was that the LABEL doesn't warn against

drinking the

>

> bottle. we don't SAY 'harmful or poisonous if swallowed'... if

> swallowed,

> drink water and call your physician' etc.

>

> I made the mistake of under estimating human stupidity, I guess.

>

> I have looked at the labels of a LOT of other suppliers. NONE have

the

> basic safety information all of ours do.

>

> <snipped>

>

> I spent so much time cautioning folks about its long term use as a

pain

> reliever ... I never THOUGHT to tell 'em don't let your kids drink

it. "

>

> I should have.

>

> Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare

Professionals

> Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and

Videos

> <http://www.naturesgift.com>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 07:15 PM 7/1/2006, you wrote:

>You bring up a great point about the labels too. I put on my labels (of

>everything from supplies to finished product) warnings like : keep out

>of the reach of children (or supervise children, whichever is more

>applicable), keep away from pets, keep out of eyes, dilute before use,

>do not eat, if it irritates you stop using it, etc .. I like to call

>many of them the DUH cautions.

 

But, the thing is, those are not enough in this particular case. I have

" keep out of reach of children, for external use only, keep away from eyes,

always dilute with carrier oil before applying to skin " on EVERY bottle, as

well as specific other cautions for specific oils...in bold.

 

There is specific verbiage that they want. AND, of course the " child

proof/senior friendly " bottle caps. (and if THAT isn't an oxymoron, I

don't know what is.)

 

I've heard from three irate 'senior' clients, who have great difficulty

with childproof caps.

 

 

 

 

 

Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals

Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos

<http://www.naturesgift.com>