Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 The Pentagon announced today the formation of a new 500-man Elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces. These Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas boys will be dropped into Iraq and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus. 5. They are DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the death of Dale Earnhardt. 6. Their favorite movie is " BROKEBACK MOUNTAIN. " We expect the problem in Iraq to be over by Friday Ms. Vicki Barth-Peters SunMoon Naturals http://www.smnaturals.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit Reading Terminal Market Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Now, this is MY kind of Humor!!!!! Hugs, Jan S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Lynette, Hi there! I'm sorry that you took offense to Vickie's Pentagon Announcement Joke. I thought that was cute and I am from the South, Texas. I also have a son who is at the US Naval Academy and I sent him the joke. My husband who is also born and reared here in the South, Texas, also laughed very hard and forwarded the joke to some of his friends, who are Yankees. We have received some very cute replies. I would like to say something here in defense of us, Southerners, we like to laugh at ourselves and we laugh at ourselves many times through jokes and songs. Some of our country music is really different if you ever stop to listen to it, so I listen to the Golden Oldies to make myself smile. I could take offense at many things but I have learned to laugh at myself. I have an unusual first name, Rhavda (pronounced Raa-da), which comes from my Bulgarian father's mother. My mother to make it more Southern & Texan, decided that I needed a middle name. (A middle name in the South is important because when you get into trouble, your mother calls you by both names. Then you know you are going to be in deep trouble and up for a switchin'.) So, my mom gave me the middle name of Sue. So every time she yelled " Raa-da Sue " I knew I was in trouble. Even today people whom I have known for a long time will call be " Raa-da Sue " and I will answer, " Yes, Mammam! " very quickly. I could take offense at this but I don't. I just laugh it off and come back with a clever retort. Maybe you could come back with a clever joke to post. We all need laughter because it makes us happier, feel good, and just plain less depressed if we are depressed. And No, I am not poking fun at you. Years ago, I used to be teased horribly about my first name until I learned to laugh. When I started laughing I became a much happier person able to more on. I am now very proud of my name and wouldn't change it for anything like I wouldn't change jokes about Texas or the South. You might want to get a copy of A SOUTHERN BELLE PRIMER by Marilyn Swartz. It is a very funny and true book about how we act in the South. I saw my family as well as my husband's family in it when we got married. It made it a lot easier to take the conditions that my husband's Aunt had set for our wedding shower. I was apalled at her " backwards " thinking. She was giving us a wedding shower of over 100 people. She required that they bring the gifts two weeks in advance so that if they didn't meet her criteria that they could be returned and from what I learned later, there were gifts returned. I knew nothing of this but then I wasn't from Tyler, Texas either. She had clout and I couldn't change a thing about it. I could have made a scene but I didn't. I laughed about it and to this day I laugh at Aunt Gladys and her ways of doing things. So read Marilyn Swartz's book. Get a good laugh and understand that what Vickie wrote is really mild. Every time I read this book, I think God that I am an American, A Texan and A Southerner by Birth and that I can laugh at myself and the rest of the world that often sees us as Bubba and other dumb and dumber people. I consider myself fortunate to live here and to be a part of this great land. I hope that you will rethink your position and consider it a good joke on us Southerners. If you can't laugh at yourself, then whom can you laugh at? Vickie started out in Nebraska and lives in Texas. She considers herself a Texan now and so she sent her joke for fun. Take care and have a wonderful 4th of July. Rhavda Emison, A Proud American, Texan, and Southerner Original Message: ----------------- Lynette Manteau terralyn27 Tue, 04 Jul 2006 14:06:55 -0400 Re: Pentagon Announcement ... OT Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit Reading Terminal Market Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Thanks for your reply Rhavda - I appreciate your taking the time to defend your Southern American position. Point is, you shouldn't have to. I love the differences between cultures and realize these are what make us who we are individually. The differences should bring us together as people. Unfortunately, differences can be used as value judgments and hurt us. I love to laugh and have a good time both at myself and with others. I'll hold my position and think twice before I laugh at the expense of the other. You may find humor in these jokes - not all of us do. Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit Reading Terminal Market Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 the first time I was sent this, it was from a friend in Georgia who's husband was always complaining about the bag limits My dad always said anyone who couldn't laugh at themselves never knew what everyone else was laughing about. I'm Polish and have quite a collection of Polish jokes. I probably know jokes about the Catholic church than most comedians and I was raised Catholic, went to catholic school and have an aunt who is a nun. If you can't lighten up, use your delete button. Mine gets rid of a lot of things I don't like Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit Reading Terminal Market Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I also find this so called joke very sick in nature. It is far from " cute " ,and in very bad taste. I do not see what it has to do with an oil and herbs group! I read it to my 20 year old daughter and she understands at her age how evil it sounds.Promoting hatred is not my cup of herbal tea.Shame shame. Colleen > > Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. > Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit > Reading Terminal Market > Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm in your camp, Rhavda. I thought it was funny. People are just too thin skinned today. Stamp out PCness and bring back the funny bone!! Mitsy I thought that was cute and I am from the South, Texas. > I hope that you will rethink your position and consider it a good joke > on us Southerners. If you can't laugh at yourself, then whom can you laugh > at? Vickie started out in Nebraska and lives in Texas. She considers > herself a Texan now and so she sent her joke for fun. > Take care and have a wonderful 4th of July. > Rhavda Emison, A Proud American, Texan, and Southerner > > > Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern > states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the > bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. > Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit > Reading Terminal Market > Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I thought it was hilarious. I'm a southerner (NC) born and bred, NASCAR fan, and I talk with a sexy southern drawl. And I almost pip'd reading it. Vickie in NC (who doesn't care for political correctness) and thinks people are too thin skinned today. After all, the constitution says you have the right to seek happiness, it doesn't say we guarantee happiness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 AMEN !!! If it's something said just to be mean, that's one thing. But this is a joke, meant to bring at least 1 smile or giggle to fellow list members and might be the only smile or giggle they get today. Life is short, laugh while you can. Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away Stamp out PCness and bring back the funny bone!! Mitsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I'm from NY and have a house in VA also, almost everyday im called a DAYUM YANKEE and i LOVE IT, if im NOT called it? i call myself a dayum yankee, i thought it was funny and sent it to ALL my redneck friends lol and they sent it to many others also, god bless the freedoms we enjoy and if that freedom annoys anyone? OH WELL!! seagrape1954 <seagrape wrote: I'm in your camp, Rhavda. I thought it was funny. People are just too thin skinned today. Stamp out PCness and bring back the funny bone!! Mitsy I thought that was cute and I am from the South, Texas. > I hope that you will rethink your position and consider it a good joke > on us Southerners. If you can't laugh at yourself, then whom can you laugh > at? Vickie started out in Nebraska and lives in Texas. She considers > herself a Texan now and so she sent her joke for fun. > Take care and have a wonderful 4th of July. > Rhavda Emison, A Proud American, Texan, and Southerner > > > Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern > states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the > bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. > Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit > Reading Terminal Market > Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 It is my policy to no longer use language that accepts the current concept of animals as property, commodities and/or things. Rather than refer to myself or others as " owners " of animals we share our lives with, I now refer to myself and others as " guardians " of our animal friends and to animals as " he " or " she " rather than " it. " Guardians do not buy or sell animals; instead they rescue and adopt. I urge you to do the same. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Der Mitsy, Hi there! I'm glad that you agree. PC correctness can go too far as far as I am concerned but it's a free country and we are made up of all kinds. I talked briefly to Vickie and found out that she got her joke from someone in Illinois and also that she would have been born in Oklahoma had her parents not been in Nebraska at the time of her birth. Have a great day! I'm back to distilling helichrysum essential oil. Last Spring I bought a still. Last week my husband discovered my still. This past weekend we (he) has been busy distilling and teaching me how to distill. He is like a kid in a candy shop with access to all the candy that he wants. He allows me to change flasks for the hydrosols that are the by-product (I am going to have plenty of heli hydrosol for sale shortly - never dreamed that I would be in the hydrosol business, too) and pour out water and put ice in the pump contraception that he has rigged up. Today, I get to do it by myself. He is at work. Take care. Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- seagrape1954 seagrape Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:12:05 -0000 Re: Pentagon Announcement ... OT I'm in your camp, Rhavda. I thought it was funny. People are just too thin skinned today. Stamp out PCness and bring back the funny bone!! Mitsy I thought that was cute and I am from the South, Texas. > I hope that you will rethink your position and consider it a good joke > on us Southerners. If you can't laugh at yourself, then whom can you laugh > at? Vickie started out in Nebraska and lives in Texas. She considers > herself a Texan now and so she sent her joke for fun. > Take care and have a wonderful 4th of July. > Rhavda Emison, A Proud American, Texan, and Southerner > > > Your " joke " may be considered offensive to anyone from the named southern > states, anyone gay and to me personally, who finds stereotyping and the > bashing of any group of people just plain wrong. > Namaste, Lynette of Terralyn - Bath, Body, Spirit > Reading Terminal Market > Philadelphia, PA terralyn27 -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 On Behalf Of Vickie Durham Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:26 AM Re: Re: Pentagon Announcement ... OT I thought it was hilarious. I'm a southerner (NC) born and bred, NASCAR fan, and I talk with a sexy southern drawl. And I almost pip'd reading it. Vickie in NC (who doesn't care for political correctness) and thinks people are too thin skinned today. After all, the constitution says you have the right to seek happiness, it doesn't say we guarantee happiness. Hi All, I enjoy a good joke, but I have to agree with those who find this one distasteful. " Politically Correct " sometimes becomes an euphemism to cover or justify other " isms' such as racism, sexism, etc. . . This joke even includes cannibalism, which I would hope most of us abhor. Dismissing horrible atrocities currently perpetrated in the Middle East with a joke such as this perhaps only furthers an attitude that accepts or even condones this kind of horrible behavior. I certainly can't laugh at this. Vickie, I have to take issue with the allusion that " sensitivity " can be dismissed so simply as being thin skinned. It is far more than that and cannot be hidden behind yet another two-word phrase perhaps only intended to curb a deeper reflection, which might lead to greater understanding. This reminds me of the parents who tell their children to " cowboy up " when they show fragile feelings, which suppresses inner sensitive thinking that might help children develop empathy and understanding for themselves as well as the great diversity of other peoples different than themselves. Sometimes clever little phrases like these really prevent us from actually discussing the meat of an issue and understanding one another on more than just a superficial level. Actually, the Constitution doesn't mention any of what you suggest above, Vickie. The phrase you refer to is in the Declaration of Independence and reads . . . " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. " You can view a complete transcription at this website to better understand the purpose of the Declaration of Independence. http://tinyurl.com/awcem So, if we interpret this literally, it is stated as a " right " , which is another way of saying " guaranteed " . The actual Constitution is a whole 'nother document which establishes the democratic blueprint for the government of the people, for the people and by the people. Vicki (and others, me included, who responded to her joke) has exercised her First Amendment Right of free speech, which is contained in the Amendments to the Constitution found here http://tinyurl.com/caqbv The Constitution can be found here http://tinyurl.com/9rqso So, the point of my post here is to remind us all that we celebrated our unique independence yesterday, even though we are currently in a Constitutional crises and some of you probably don't even know it. Here's a simple little video that poses a question or two in that regard. http://www.bushflash.com/14.html Maybe it will move you to look behind simple two-word phrases that can veil the truth; somewhat like the curtain that the Wizard hides behind in Oz. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I thought it was funny too, coming from a Texan down here. We are in a sad state if we cannot even laugh at ourselves. Our country is in dishevel and everyone seems to be at everyone's throat thanks to our " wonderful " economy. Lighten up. Let's get our tangas out of a wad! Joyce S., NR-CMA - " Marcia Elston " <samara > > > > On Behalf Of Vickie Durham > > I thought it was hilarious. I'm a southerner (NC) born and bred, > NASCAR fan, > and I talk with a sexy southern drawl. And I almost pip'd reading > it. ~snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Iraq Rose YES Sometimes we use the term politically correct to much, HOWEVER your comments and " SO CALLED " truethfull film is not only incorrect, but maybe a little treason is mixed in there. Where were YOU on 9/11? I WAS THERE !! i saw, heard, smelled and tasted the horrors of that day, where were you and that leftist film maker when they were beheading our countrymen? and where were you when these cowards boarded a bus full of school childred and blew them up? or why dont you speak of the disco that was blown away and full of teenages they had no fight with these cowards? need i list them all? Because YOU and your cronies dont support our country, president and troops that are there DEFENDING your right to knock what the VAST majority of Americans support, you say freedom of speech?i thought that joke was GREAT even thought it made some of our LESS patriotic americans float to the surface of the pond that they were bottom dwelling in. I dont care what our goverment does with those cowards in Cuba use them as boyonet practise thats fine with me THIER NOT THERE for traffic violations and DONT dare talk to me about THIER RIGHTS they are NOT Americans they have NO RIGHTS under OUR LAWS. Let me the SUM this up by saying reading your letter made my blood boil, as i know men and woman that have gone back and laid thier life on the line BECAUSE they believe in what thier doing, but i calmed down to i just feeling SICK by people like you, i was a BOUNCER in a Brooklyn bar for many years, and found that cowards and traitors come in many forms GOD BLESS AMERICA, GEORGE BUSH, and the BRAVE and NOBLE men and woman that suffered through our wars to keep us all safe and able to spread garbage such as that SO CALLED THROW UP MOVIE Marcia Elston <samara wrote: On Behalf Of Vickie Durham Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:26 AM Re: Re: Pentagon Announcement ... OT I thought it was hilarious. I'm a southerner (NC) born and bred, NASCAR fan, and I talk with a sexy southern drawl. And I almost pip'd reading it. Vickie in NC (who doesn't care for political correctness) and thinks people are too thin skinned today. After all, the constitution says you have the right to seek happiness, it doesn't say we guarantee happiness. Hi All, I enjoy a good joke, but I have to agree with those who find this one distasteful. " Politically Correct " sometimes becomes an euphemism to cover or justify other " isms' such as racism, sexism, etc. . . This joke even includes cannibalism, which I would hope most of us abhor. Dismissing horrible atrocities currently perpetrated in the Middle East with a joke such as this perhaps only furthers an attitude that accepts or even condones this kind of horrible behavior. I certainly can't laugh at this. Vickie, I have to take issue with the allusion that " sensitivity " can be dismissed so simply as being thin skinned. It is far more than that and cannot be hidden behind yet another two-word phrase perhaps only intended to curb a deeper reflection, which might lead to greater understanding. This reminds me of the parents who tell their children to " cowboy up " when they show fragile feelings, which suppresses inner sensitive thinking that might help children develop empathy and understanding for themselves as well as the great diversity of other peoples different than themselves. Sometimes clever little phrases like these really prevent us from actually discussing the meat of an issue and understanding one another on more than just a superficial level. Actually, the Constitution doesn't mention any of what you suggest above, Vickie. The phrase you refer to is in the Declaration of Independence and reads . . . " We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. " You can view a complete transcription at this website to better understand the purpose of the Declaration of Independence. http://tinyurl.com/awcem So, if we interpret this literally, it is stated as a " right " , which is another way of saying " guaranteed " . The actual Constitution is a whole 'nother document which establishes the democratic blueprint for the government of the people, for the people and by the people. Vicki (and others, me included, who responded to her joke) has exercised her First Amendment Right of free speech, which is contained in the Amendments to the Constitution found here http://tinyurl.com/caqbv The Constitution can be found here http://tinyurl.com/9rqso So, the point of my post here is to remind us all that we celebrated our unique independence yesterday, even though we are currently in a Constitutional crises and some of you probably don't even know it. Here's a simple little video that poses a question or two in that regard. http://www.bushflash.com/14.html Maybe it will move you to look behind simple two-word phrases that can veil the truth; somewhat like the curtain that the Wizard hides behind in Oz. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria It is my policy to no longer use language that accepts the current concept of animals as property, commodities and/or things. Rather than refer to myself or others as " owners " of animals we share our lives with, I now refer to myself and others as " guardians " of our animal friends and to animals as " he " or " she " rather than " it. " Guardians do not buy or sell animals; instead they rescue and adopt. I urge you to do the same. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Thank you, Rhavda, for your personal reply. I am happy to be in your camp and I agree that PCness today is over the top and out of control. Such laxity in what is and is not acceptable has given rise to a many headed monster and people today don't know where to draw the line about what is and is not acceptable. There are far worse things than the redneck mentality that started this whole discussion. Pedophilia, for example. I am amused by your story of having acquired a still last spring and your DH just now finding out about it and being so helpful to you in using it. The two of you will have a lot of fun with it. Mitsy > Der Mitsy, > Hi there! I'm glad that you agree. PC correctness can go too far as far > as I am concerned but it's a free country and we are made up of all kinds. > > Have a great day! I'm back to distilling helichrysum essential oil. > Last Spring I bought a still. Last week my husband discovered my still. > This past weekend we (he) has been busy distilling and teaching me how to > distill. He is like a kid in a candy shop with access to all the candy that > he wants. He allows me to change flasks for the hydrosols that are the > by-product (I am going to have plenty of heli hydrosol for sale shortly - > never dreamed that I would be in the hydrosol business, too) and pour out > water and put ice in the pump contraception that he has rigged up. Today, I > get to do it by myself. He is at work. > Take care. > Rhavda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 When OT is in the subject line and after reading a few lines, you don't like what you're reading, use the delete button ! If your keyboard doesn't have a delete button - get a new key board or click on delete !! In case no one has noticed, the world is not 'politically correct' and I don't see anyone here having a problem with it here because we have learned to deal with it. I seriously doubt that you will find any list where you approve of/agree with every single thing that is posted. DH & I do a lot of camping, hiking, hunting, etc and get quite a few outdoors magazines. Since the war began, there have been many, many letters to the editors suggesting that groups of hunters go lend the troops a hand as long as there is no bag limit - and those are the letters they were able to print. I can only imagine how many other letters along that thread that they could not publish. It's not like this list is the only place a " no bag limit " has been mentioned. Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away Thank you, Rhavda, for your personal reply. I am happy to be in your camp and I agree that PCness today is over the top and out of control. Such laxity in what is and is not acceptable has given rise to a many headed monster and people today don't know where to draw the line about what is and is not acceptable. There are far worse things than the redneck mentality that started this whole discussion. Pedophilia, for example. I am amused by your story of having acquired a still last spring and your DH just now finding out about it and being so helpful to you in using it. The two of you will have a lot of fun with it. Mitsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 In a message dated 7/6/2006 3:42:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cd_at_aspenacres writes: I also find this so called joke very sick in nature. It is far from " cute " ,and in very bad taste. I do not see what it has to do with an oil and herbs group! I read it to my 20 year old daughter and she understands at her age how evil it sounds.Promoting hatred is not my cup of herbal tea.Shame shame. Ok, Ok... can we just all agree to disagree and call it done? I personally got a kick out of it, sorry some of you didn't. That's why there's different flavors of ice cream too. Oh, and BTW... as far as the " what does this have to do with an herbs and oils group " comment, Chris does allow us to post things that we find humorous, and since we are all adults here, they are to be taken in adult frame of mind. Now, how 'bout we all get off our soapboxes and get back to putting goodies into them! ))))) Michelle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Ok folks, can we maybe take this off list now ? Carol Ok, . <http://geo./serv?s=97359714 & grpId=2070936 & grpspId=1600162397 & msgId =43100 & stime=1152215495> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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