Guest guest Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 I would like some info on using honey in CP soap. How much honey should you use PPO? And when do you add it? Should it be heated first to make it more fluid? And does it retain the scent? Any tidbits on using honey would be appreciated. [Dave:] Hi Donna. I’ve used honey in soaps and been very pleased with the results. I use about 2 Tbs per pound as a humectant. I has very little odor, but if your sniffer is good you can detect it. Hope this is helpful. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release 7/14/2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release 7/14/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Be advised that honey will cause the soap to heat up in the mold and also darken the soap. I use a maximum of a tablespoon per pound, I don't know what the limit is although I have heard that it can make a sticky soap. I just add at trace. I have never noticed fragrance coming through, but I have only added it to soap with oatmeal and milk in it. Joanne , " dzmg2000 " <dzmg wrote: > > I would like some info on using honey in CP soap. How much honey should > you use PPO? And when do you add it? Should it be heated first to make > it more fluid? And does it retain the scent? Any tidbits on using honey > would be appreciated. > > Thanks for your help...Donna > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I've tried honey with the oils, at trace and I'm not sure which method I prefer....you just want to make sure you get it mixed really well into your soap emulsion or (in my experience), you can have little spots. I think it does help to keep the honey as fluid as possible. If you're using a log mold, then less is definitely more because the more honey you add (especially if using other soap *heaters* like milk), you can cause your soap to heat up to the point it has little craters in it...lol! :-) Anything with sugar will cause your soap to heat up and a log mold, keeping the soap in close proximity, just adds fuel to that fire. I would say anywhere between 1 tsp to 1 tbsp PPO depending on whether or not you are using milk as well, and whether or not you're using a log mold. I've made oatmeal, milk & honey soap with no scent added and it smelled like an oatmeal cookie to me....I thought it was great! HTH! Kelly -------- Kelly Beers www.thesoappeddler.net Don't you deserve to be pampered? New Message Search Find the message you want faster. Visit your group to try out the improved message search. Share feedback on the new changes to Groups Recent Activity 10New Members 2New Links Visit Your Group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 the more honey you add (especially if using other soap *heaters* like milk), you can cause your soap to heat up to the point it has little craters in it...lol! :-) [Dave:] Never had craters, but I have melted a few molds. A tube mold that bulges in the middle is pretty dang hard to get the soap out of! I've made oatmeal, milk & honey soap with no scent added and it smelled like an oatmeal cookie to me....I thought it was great! [Dave:] I expected that smell with my GM/honey/oats soap and was disappointed. Interesting. There is a very faint scent. But it’s great soap. I also added a tad of beeswax to this particular batch (I don’t usually care to add beeswax because it seems to me that it reduces the lather). The bars are very hard and while the lather is not lavish, the soap is wonderful to use. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release 7/14/2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release 7/14/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Hi Dave, I was kinda heavy handed with the honey on that one. :-) You could toast your oats too before grinding them up for soap...that gives a whole new dimension to the scent. Kelly > > [Dave:] I expected that smell with my GM/honey/oats soap and was > disappointed. Interesting. There is a very faint scent. But it’s great > soap. I also added a tad of beeswax to this particular batch (I don’t > usually care to add beeswax because it seems to me that it reduces the > lather). The bars are very hard and while the lather is not lavish, the > soap is wonderful to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 > You could toast > your oats too before grinding them up for soap...that gives a whole new > dimension to the scent. [Dave:] Never thought of that. Thanks Kelly! -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release 7/14/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 I would like some info on using honey in CP soap. How much honey should you use PPO? And when do you add it? Should it be heated first to make it more fluid? And does it retain the scent? Any tidbits on using honey would be appreciated. Thanks for your help...Donna In a 5 lb. batch I use 1/4 cup of honey...I use local to my area honey, just because I want to although I don't really know if it makes a difference. Add at light trace. Do not insulate the batch, even in winter, as it will get REALLY warm by itself. If you are doing HP, then add after cook. This I learned from experience, as I did it at trace one time, then cooked it. The soap came out after cooling in the mold looking like the fat globules under your skin, and all the honey and some other liquid oozed out! You can warm the honey just a tad, or in the heat of southeast TX, I just set the jar outside while my oils are melting. [it's 80 degrees here, at 7am today.] Anita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 At 09:14 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote: > I've made oatmeal, milk & honey soap with no scent added and it smelled > like an oatmeal cookie to me....I thought it was great! yep... in my experience, the combination of using goats milk AND adding honey heats the raw soap so much that it 'toasts' the oatmeal a tiny bit... again, smells like an oatmeal cookie... and goes thru gel, with the milk ours normally comes out a VERY dark brown. Once I froze the milk almost solid...past slushy... and the soap didn't heat up enough, was much paler. For OM & H I want DARK brown... and no added 'aromatics'... makes it a great soap for those with allergies. Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 , " David Lambert " <dlmbrt wrote: > I also added a tad of beeswax to this particular batch (I don't > usually care to add beeswax because it seems to me that it reduces the > lather). How much is a " tad " ? I would like to try using beeswax in soap but have no idea how much to use PPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 >I also added a tad of beeswax to this particular batch (I don't > usually care to add beeswax because it seems to me that it reduces the > lather). How much is a " tad " ? I would like to try using beeswax in soap but have no idea how much to use PPO. [Dave:] In a batch of soap that contained three pounds of oils, I added 2 oz. by weight of beeswax. I add it to the warm oils, and allow for it in my lye mixture with a SAP of .06693 (5% lye discount). I don’t think I’d use more than that, though I’ve read that up to an ounce per pound is ok. -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/396 - Release 7/24/2006 -- Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/399 - Release 7/25/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 I use between 0.5 to 1.0 oz bees wax PPO Paula .......... in Michigan I used to have super powers but my therapist took them away How much is a " tad " ? I would like to try using beeswax in soap but have no idea how much to use PPO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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