Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 At 09:20 PM 7/27/2006, you wrote: >GALBANUM (ferula gummosa) >CASSIA (Cinnamomum cassia) >ONYCHA (styrax benzoin) >ROSE OF SHARON/CISTUS (Cistus ladanifer) Nature's Gift offers all of the above (as well as the others you've already found. Please be very cautions in using cassia and benzoin... both are very strong sensitizers... Over 10 years online supplying Aromatherapy and Healthcare Professionals Essential Oils, Hydrosols, Accessories, Hard to find Books and Videos <http://www.naturesgift.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear Pam, I have been following your thread on the list. I have a question to ask you. How can you have essential oils at the time of Christ if distillation was not perfected until the 10th century AD? We really don't know what kind of oils were used at the time of Christ and before because we do not have any records. I assume that what was used was aged herbal & flower infused oils along with resins which are produced in an entirely different way. The hype that eos existed at the time of Christ is great hype but hype is what it is. Most of the oils that you have named were at one time very heavy and resinuous. Now cinniamon I don't remember about off the top of my head but I do know that galbanum back about 15 years ago was sold as a resin and since has been modified into an eo. I hope that you don't mind my emailing you privately but I thought that you might like to think about your statement " essential oils of the Bible " and want to rephrase it to say " oils of the Bible. " I have done a great deal of research on aged infused oils and essential oils and I teach that we do not know what these people really had back then because we do not have reacords nor pictures nor formulas to go buy. Essential oils would have had to have a lot of plant materials and most people did not have access to large amounts of plant material. They lived on small plots of land and did not ever get more than a couple of miles from home in their lives unless they went to war. Also life expectancy was very short and if you lived to 25 you were old. Take care. I love your idea of kits. I made kits about 12 to 15 years ago with very small vials using old birth control leather carrying cases. They quit making the bc cases and I had to start making larger kits. Have you thought of breaking your kits into 4 different types of kits such as antispectic, hormones, relaxing, revitalizing, and rare oils? I've done similar kits in the past with great success. Also, give them a mix and match kit to customize their needs. I look forward to talking with you soon. Rhavda Emison Scents of Success (http://www.scentsofsuccess.com) Texas Grown - American Made Rose Oil Products Rose, Helichrysum, Oak Moss, Melissa & Other Products Original Message: ----------------- Pam pam Fri, 28 Jul 2006 09:29:13 -0500 Are these the same? if not - what would be the difference? CASSIA (cinnamomum cassia) and Cinnamon Leaf (Cinnamomum zeylanicum) I'm still trying to match up oils for the popular 'other' 12 essential oils of the bible. I'm also still in need of any sites that would sell something to 'package' these oils in - I can do the graphics, just need something to package it in that would look really nice. thanks for any help - and thanks for those of you that have emailed me off list with help too! Blessings ~ Pam -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I so enjoyed your message and I will certainly share this with the gal that is in the ministry that approached me for doing this in the first place! Excellent thoughts on expressing the 'kit' in a different matter - I wasn't real comfortable with saying EO's either, but didn't dawn on me to just drop the e ;-) and offering various kits would be ideal - I almost fell over when I found out 'they' were asking over $200 for the set of 12 EO's in 5 ml bottles....and after doing my 'figuring' for everything - the whole cost is under $50!!! what a ripoff......how do people walk upright and live with themselves!!!?? oh my...probably going to get bopped for this statement :-) thanks again for the message - I so appreciate it and look forward to chatting with you! Pam , " sos79 " <sos79 wrote: > > Dear Pam, > I have been following your thread on the list. I have a question to > ask you. How can you have essential oils at the time of Christ if > distillation was not perfected until the 10th century AD? We really don't > know what kind of oils were used at the time of Christ and before because > we do not have any records. I assume that what was used was aged herbal & > flower infused oils along with resins which are produced in an entirely > different way. The hype that eos existed at the time of Christ is great > hype but hype is what it is. Most of the oils that you have named were at > one time very heavy and resinuous. Now cinniamon I don't remember about off > the top of my head but I do know that galbanum back about 15 years ago was > sold as a resin and since has been modified into an eo. > I hope that you don't mind my emailing you privately but I thought > that you might like to think about your statement " essential oils of the > Bible " and want to rephrase it to say " oils of the Bible. " I have done a > great deal of research on aged infused oils and essential oils and I teach > that we do not know what these people really had back then because we do > not have reacords nor pictures nor formulas to go buy. Essential oils would > have had to have a lot of plant materials and most people did not have > access to large amounts of plant material. They lived on small plots of > land and did not ever get more than a couple of miles from home in their > lives unless they went to war. Also life expectancy was very short and if > you lived to 25 you were old. > Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 I too have enjoyed this thread. My knowledge is scant at best, but some oils of course could be obtained from pressing. I have always enjoyed thinking of lavender as the " Mother Plant " . Just my thoughts on life's fragrant treasures without any proof what so ever. Cindy Whitaker www.windmillsoaps.com www.apothecarylavender.com Beautifully Designed & Gentle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dear Pam, I'm glad that you understood what I was trying to say about not having essential oils at the time of Christ. Young Living company is the one that has really put this senario into the mainstream even though many people won't acknowledge this. I have been doing aromatherapy since the mid-1980's along with aged infused oils because I could not find the essential oils. I've also studied the Bible a lot and they just don't mention what type of oils were around at that time. So I just use common sense and look at the history and what type of lives these people lived. They lived hard and short lives with little of the beautiful gifts that we have today and we tend to forget these things. For years I have tried to get people to think off lists about what they are saying and to do research for themselves. We do know that there were crude stills around but what man would give up his alcohol still to his wife to make eos, even if enough plant materials were available? I know of very few men who would do that even with our modern stills today. My husband does not drink but he has taken over my still because he has had " chemistry " and knows what to do. So I have let him be the distiller and he has had fun distilling the helichrysum with me and making the hydrosols which have turned out to be very good. So kudos to my husband! As for your kits, think small 1/8 oz. bottles or 1/16th vials or bottles. Keep your kits simple and give them a list with prices on the list that reflect the cost of your eos with your profit already built in or you are going to take a real bath. I've been there with churches and synogouges and I am here to tell you that you will not make much profit from them and the people usually don't become return customers unless you are big and pushing them at church and frankly, I don't think that you are that type of person. You want to help out. Don't think 1/4 oz., 1/3 oz., or 1/2 oz. or you will not be able to repurchase. If they want that large of an oil, then let them buy directly from you. I hope you don't mind a little advice here but I have been there myself. Also think small kits with no more than 4 to 5 eos in them. Attempt to keep your price under $29.99. Usually higher than $30.00 people complain and won't buy. I sell the only American made rose oil that I know of and people still complain no matter what I charge. The same thing when applied to Melissa and to helichrysum and I know I am reasonably priced. Don't be afraid to make a profit or you won't stay in business. I hope that this information helps you. Please email me after you've made up your kits so I will know what you have done. By the way if you need any of my oils, tell me and I will send you small samples for you to try. Take care and have a great weekend! Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- Pam Staley pam Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:37:10 -0000 Re: Oils of the Bible I so enjoyed your message and I will certainly share this with the gal that is in the ministry that approached me for doing this in the first place! Excellent thoughts on expressing the 'kit' in a different matter - I wasn't real comfortable with saying EO's either, but didn't dawn on me to just drop the e ;-) and offering various kits would be ideal - I almost fell over when I found out 'they' were asking over $200 for the set of 12 EO's in 5 ml bottles....and after doing my 'figuring' for everything - the whole cost is under $50!!! what a ripoff......how do people walk upright and live with themselves!!!?? oh my...probably going to get bopped for this statement :-) thanks again for the message - I so appreciate it and look forward to chatting with you! Pam , " sos79 " <sos79 wrote: > > Dear Pam, > I have been following your thread on the list. I have a question to > ask you. How can you have essential oils at the time of Christ if > distillation was not perfected until the 10th century AD? We really don't > know what kind of oils were used at the time of Christ and before because > we do not have any records. I assume that what was used was aged herbal & > flower infused oils along with resins which are produced in an entirely > different way. The hype that eos existed at the time of Christ is great > hype but hype is what it is. Most of the oils that you have named were at > one time very heavy and resinuous. Now cinniamon I don't remember about off > the top of my head but I do know that galbanum back about 15 years ago was > sold as a resin and since has been modified into an eo. > I hope that you don't mind my emailing you privately but I thought > that you might like to think about your statement " essential oils of the > Bible " and want to rephrase it to say " oils of the Bible. " I have done a > great deal of research on aged infused oils and essential oils and I teach > that we do not know what these people really had back then because we do > not have reacords nor pictures nor formulas to go buy. Essential oils would > have had to have a lot of plant materials and most people did not have > access to large amounts of plant material. They lived on small plots of > land and did not ever get more than a couple of miles from home in their > lives unless they went to war. Also life expectancy was very short and if > you lived to 25 you were old. > Take care. -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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