Health: E. Coli Outbreak Spreads to 10th State

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, Butch Owen <butchbsi

wrote:

>

Hi Butch,

It you do not have the hydrosol, would a few drops of Oregano in

water shaken well work?

Hey, I am still waiting for my off line reply.

John

 

 

> Hi y'all,

>

> <snipped>

>

> .. another piece of trivia .. I have studies showing that the

> Origanums (matters not which one .. long as it is Carvacrol rich)

will

> immediately destroy E. Coli .. and Salmonella.

>

> And .. for a long time I have soaked raw vegetables here in Turkey

in

> Oregano Hydrosol. Did it keep me from getting sick? I don't

know ..

> but it dang sure beats the recommendations of the Embassy Nurse

here ..

> they say we should soak them in a solution or Clorox. Ughhh. ;-)

>

> Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-)

>

> Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

>

> E. Coli Outbreak Spreads to 10th State

 

> Find this article at:

>

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/09/15/tainted.spinach.ap/index.htm

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>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to add that a few years back, fish fertilizer was the supposed

cause of a case of salmonela here in Puget Sound in a vegan from her own

vegetable garden. I have used fish emulsion for decades . . . Was not

always confident that this was the cause . . ., but who knows. Maybe the

oregano hydrosol soak of all your veggies (not just the big box ones, but

farmer's market or homegrown) isn't a bad idea. I'm with you, Butch, no

Clorox bleach, thank you very much.

 

Be Well,

Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com

" Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from

Nigeria

[Guest guest]

Hi y'all,

 

Perhaps you know about this .. but maybe not. I (and probably many of

you) have been lucky to date because while I lived in the USA I always

had a vegetable garden .. and always used chicken and horse manure as

fertilizer .. not because I thought it was better than the commercial

types .. but because it was readily available and free. And .. here in

Turkey almost all vegetables are grown using manure as fertilizer.

 

In fact .. use of commercial fertilizers does NOT cause a vegetable to

not be classified as " organic " ! Plants break down fertilizers (be they

commercial or animal byproducts) into their basic chemical structure

prior to using them .. so it matters not. Its the fungicides and

pesticides we have to be concerned with.

 

And .. another piece of trivia .. I have studies showing that the

Origanums (matters not which one .. long as it is Carvacrol rich) will

immediately destroy E. Coli .. and Salmonella.

 

And .. for a long time I have soaked raw vegetables here in Turkey in

Oregano Hydrosol. Did it keep me from getting sick? I don't know ..

but it dang sure beats the recommendations of the Embassy Nurse here ..

they say we should soak them in a solution or Clorox. Ughhh. ;-)

 

Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

E. Coli Outbreak Spreads to 10th State

 

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Federal health officials worked Friday to find the

source of a multistate E. coli outbreak and warned consumers that even

washing the suspect spinach won't kill the sometimes deadly bacteria.

 

One person died and dozens of others were sickened in the 10-state

outbreak, linked by Food and Drug Administration officials to bagged

spinach.

 

" We need to strive to do even better, so even one life is not lost, "

said Dr. Andrew von Eschenbach, FDA's acting commissioner.

 

The FDA warned people not to eat bagged spinach and said washing it

wouldn't solve the problem because the bacteria is too tightly attached.

 

" If you wash it, it is not going to get rid of it, " said Robert

Brackett, director of the FDA's Center for Food Safety and Nutrition.

 

The original outbreak was reported Thursday with 50 cases in eight

states. Ohio and Kentucky became the ninth and tenth Friday, with

health officials reporting seven cases in Ohio and one in Kentucky.

 

Officials believes the spinach may have been grown in California, and

federal and state health officials were there trying to pinpoint the

source of the contamination.

 

E. coli is commonly present in animal manure.

 

Brackett said the use of manure as a fertilizer for produce typically

consumed raw, such as spinach, is not in keeping with good agricultural

practices. " It is something we don't want to see, " he told a food policy

conference.

 

The death occurred in Wisconsin, where 20 people were reported ill, 11

of them in Milwaukee.

 

The outbreak has sickened others -- eight of them seriously -- in

Connecticut, Idaho, Indiana, Michigan, New Mexico, Oregon and Utah. In

California, state health officials said they were investigating a

possible case there.

 

The outbreak has affected a mix of ages, but most of the cases have

involved women, Acheson said. Further information on the person who died

wasn't available.

 

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and Wisconsin health

officials alerted the FDA about the outbreak at midweek.

 

The warning applied to consumers nationwide because of uncertainty over

the origin of the tainted spinach and how widely it was distributed.

Health officials did not know of any link to a specific growing region,

grower, brand or supplier.

 

" Typically we would try to narrow it down as focused as we could, "

Brackett said in an interview. " The fact that it was distributed all

over the country, the fact that people are getting seriously ill from

this, warranted us to have an abundance of caution and just to say 'OK,

stop now until we figure out exactly what's going on. " '

 

Brackett noted that most of the spinach crop at this time of the year

comes from California. A special effort is under way in the Salinas

Valley of California, a major leafy-vegetable growing region, to look

for any possible source of contamination there.

 

Amy Philpott, a spokeswoman for the United Fresh Produce Association,

said that it's possible the cause of the outbreak won't be known for

some time, even after its source is determined.

 

" Our industry is very concerned, " she said. " We're taking this very

seriously. "

 

Reports of infections have been growing by the day, Acheson said. " We

may be at the peak, we may not be, " he said. "

 

E. coli causes diarrhea, often with bloody stools. Most healthy adults

can recover completely within a week, although some people -- including

the very young and old -- can develop a form of kidney failure that

often leads to death.

 

Anyone who has gotten sick after eating raw packaged spinach should

contact a doctor, officials said.

 

Other bagged vegetables, including prepackaged salads, apparently are

not affected. In general, however, washing all bagged vegetables is

recommended. Thorough cooking kills the bacterium.

 

" We're telling people if they have bagged produce and they feel like

it's a risk, throw it out, " Michigan Department of Community Health

spokesman T.J. Bucholz said. " If they feel like they have to eat it,

wash it first in warm water. "

 

E. coli lives in the intestines of cattle and other animals and

typically is linked to contamination by fecal material. It causes an

estimated 73,000 cases of infection, including 61 deaths, each year in

the United States, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control

and Prevention.

 

Sources of the bacterium include uncooked produce, raw milk,

unpasteurized juice, contaminated water and meat, especially undercooked

or raw hamburger, the agency says on its Web site.

 

Last October, the FDA warned people not to eat certain Dole prepackaged

salads that were connected to an outbreak of E. coli infections in

Minnesota. At least 11 people were sickened.

 

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Would a drop of oregano EO be as effective as an oregoano hydrosol for soaking

veggies?

Susan

 

 

[Guest guest]

If this is in regards to the tainted spinach, there's nothing you can use to

clean it well enough. The problem may not be " on " the spinach, but " in " the

spinach. What I saw last night was enough to convince me to just throw it

out until we know for sure.

 

Susan H.

 

Would a drop of oregano EO be as effective as an oregoano hydrosol for

soaking veggies?

Susan

[Guest guest]

Yep, me too, and they said last night on the news it's 20 states now. So, what I

want to know is this, this is coming from PACKAGED Spinach, doesn't the fresh

spinach come from the same place, if so it's also in THAT spinach whether it's

packaged or not??? Is this remotely true or does the packaging aid in growing

the E-coli differently or quicker? Stands to reason in my mind that if it is in

the plant it's self, not ON it, then the unpackaged spinach will be contaminated

as well, if it comes from the same farm.

Lynn

 

Susan Harkins <harkins1 wrote:

If this is in regards to the tainted spinach, there's nothing you can

use to

clean it well enough. The problem may not be " on " the spinach, but " in " the

spinach. What I saw last night was enough to convince me to just throw it

out until we know for sure.

 

Susan H.

 

Would a drop of oregano EO be as effective as an oregoano hydrosol for

soaking veggies?

Susan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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