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Hi Kristena,

 

> That is interesting that you had to do so much to get Tanya to be

> able to come.

 

Its really logical .. lots of paperwork but very logical .. and there is

another requirement now .. since 9/11 .. that if a person is issued an

Immigrant Visa based on marriage .. and they've not been married for two

years when it's issued, the sponsor (husband of wife) that is a US

citizen must file a form with the INS within 90 days of the second

anniversary of the marriage. This is good because it closes one loop

hole they found when trying to trace down illegals .. many folks had

married for money .. then divorced. There were many marriage shops ..

primarily in Asia .. that were paying Americans to marry folks just to

get them into the USA.

 

> What I don't get is how do illegals get the medicaid benefits when

> they are here, but Tanya cannot get anything for 5 years. Did I

> understand that correctly?

 

Any benefits given (through legislation) to illegals is for political

gain of those who must go on record as having supported it. Matters not

to them what is right or wrong .. matters only that their constituency

sees them supporting legislation that they desire. So its almost always

localized support. Find a state with less than 1% Mexican or whatever

and you're likely to find a senator or representative(s) that will not

support such a bill.

 

Tanya has full benefits now .. she became entitled to them when we

entered the USA on 5 July .. her Immigrant Visa is her entry document

into and out of the USA until 5 July 2011 .. at which time, she can

apply for US Citizenship and a US Passport.

 

This 5 year wait is also a good thing. If a person with an Immigrant

Visa commits certain crimes during that 5 years .. they are supposed to

lose their acquisition rights and are subject to deportation. For sure

the lax court system sometimes fails to follow through .. but its the

judges who are at fault .. not the INS system.

 

> (and I am not saying she would, I am scratching my head wondering

> why there is a difference in the governments eyes)

 

One route is following the established system .. the other route is

politicians trying to whitewash their intent by legitimizing those who

circumvented the system.

 

Companies prefer illegal labor because its cheaper .. they make more

profit. Claims that they can't find labor are often untrue .. though

they can't find labor for the same salaries they are paying now. One

good example was in Stillmore, GA last week. The INS started looking at

records of employees in the Crider, Inc., Chicken Plant .. last May.

They asked those who were flagged to produce some form of documentation

showing they entered the USA legally. Last week they carted off more

than 100 workers who had not produced documentation. Management of the

company is crying the blues as they were going to have to close .. but ..

they raised the hourly wage from $6.75 to $7.75 and were overwhelmed

with applications from legal residents .. many of them left Walmart and

the $5.60 an hour they were receiving there. This was reported in an

Associated Press article yesterday.

 

Gummits (worldwide) turn their head at the hiring of illegals .. same

goes here in Turkey where many illegals come in to work for 90 days on a

Tourist Visa .. then go out of country for 24 hours and return to their

job. Difference between hiring illegals here and in the USA is that

here they are hiring folks who have technical skills that are short in

Turkey .. in the USA, illegals are almost always hired because they are

cheap labor.

 

The Gummit MUST crack down on the business owners who hire illegals ..

they are causing problems for lots of folks. They hire illegals and

then from time to time the illegals are deported .. which in most cases

is worse than if they had not had a job to begin with. On the other

hand, they depress the economy in their own town by hiring illegals

rather than the US citizens in that town. Contrary to what many would

have us think .. lots of healthy folks who are now sitting on their

asses would go to work if they were offered a decent wage. Granted, if

they are healthy they are not too responsible for sitting on their asses

in the first place .. but the Gummit is also irresponsible for creating

situations where its in their best interests to sit on their asses ..

the Gummit is (in many cases) giving fish rather than teaching fishing.

 

Some say there is no way for an employer to determine if a worker is an

illegal .. and that's often the case because there are sources for

counterfeit documents in the USA .. some of these sources are run by

foreign government embassies in the US. But there are ways to determine

legality .. and there are easy changes to the system that could be

effected that would make counterfeiting damn near impossible. I defy

anyone to counterfeit the Form I-551 (Permanent Resident Card) .. often

called the " Green Card. " Its technology with a twist. ;-)

 

> What about the babe? Any trouble there?

 

Alexander is an American citizen .. has his own passport. :-)

 

He is not a dual citizen .. neither Turkish or Russian. He could not be

a Turkish citizen because we are both here on visitor status .. and to

become a Russian citizen he would have to go through one heckuva lotta

expense and bureaucratic crap .. but there are no advantages to him

having Russian citizenship so that's not a viable option anyway.

 

> Blessings

> -Love and Light-

> Ray and Kristena Roder

> http://www.dreamseeds.org

 

Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-)

 

Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

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