Oregano & E.Coli

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So .. I reckon soaking certain raw veggies in Oregano Hydrosol brings me

back to that extra margin of safety that goes along with the margin of hope

that comes with finger crossing. ;-)

 

===I believe you.

 

Susan H.

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Hi Susan,

 

> The report I saw said that the problem is from tainted water during

> the growth process -- it's in the cell walls of the plants. It isn't

> on the plant, so it can't be washed off, no matter what you clean it

> with.

 

Right you are .. and the correct action at this point .. as pertains to

the spinach .. is to DUMP it .. not try to eliminate the problem.

 

E. coli is in the cells of plants and its most often due to water rather

than soil that has been treated with animal manure. I read an article

a couple of years ago that discussed one of the most potentially

dangerous vegetative carriers of E. coli .. green onions/scallions.

Folks have died from eating them raw.

 

> Of course, they were speculating, they weren't for sure. I think they

> were waiting on tests results????? I don't recall.

 

Sounds logical. And again, the proper action to take in the case of

the present spinach scare is .. dump it .. just don't mess with it.

 

Something might have gotten lost in the shuffle since we began this

thread. This happens often when we extend threads. ;-) My original

post stated that I'd been lucky all my life because I had always used

manure in my gardens .. and am now living in a country where almost all

veggies are grown using animal manure .. so .. now there are two things

we do to TRY to avoid E. coli. One is soak veggies we intend to eat raw

(like lettuce and green onions) in Oregano Hydrosol. This gives us some

margin of safety. The other thing is to cross our fingers .. which

gives us a margin of hope. ;-)

 

I should have said that we've been lucky in that we've not been exposed

(probably?) to one of the more dangerous strains of E. coli. For sure

I've been exposed to some strains that most healthy humans can overcome

even though they might suffer a short bout of diarrhea and such. All

strains of E. coli are not harmful .. different strains have varying

degrees of danger to humans .. and new ones are developing all the time

due to mutation. And .. we human critters have certain strains in our

bodies at any given time.

 

There are studies showing that certain strains of E. coli have become

antibiotic resistant .. and some are even worsened by administration of

the wrong antibiotic. This is not restricted to E. coli alone because

use of wide spectrum antibiotics is potentially harmful in many cases ..

and that is the type of antibiotic often prescribed because some doctors

don't take the time to narrow the search for the cause.

 

Whether we get sick of not depends a lot on luck .. but also on factors

David and some other folks laid out recently .. genetics and life style

and the level of health we are experiencing when we are exposed to Big

Bad Bug critters. I believe that folks who are not antibiotic addicts

will have an better chance of kicking Big Bad Bug Butts because their

immune systems will normally be more capable of doing so.

 

Avoiding food poisoning and reaction to various Big Bad Bugs requires a

lot a luck. Never eating out and never eating raw or undercooked food

can help a lot .. but its still no guarantee that we'll not become ill.

 

I've spent more than half my life outside the USA .. most of that time

was in what is (or once was) classified as Developing Countries. I've

eaten on the street in Vietnam during Cholera epidemics when folks were

dropping like flies .. eaten whatever I could find in Somalia and in

most cases not gaining weight because my stomach often rejected it after

I had eaten it. ;-) I've broken bread in villages around the world

where hygiene was not something they were even aware of .. much less

something practiced. There are many possible reasons for me being able

to maintain health during those periods .. to try to list them would be

speculation .. but one way or the other .. I was lucky. ;-)

 

It was not until the early 1990s that I got into EO .. so I can't give

them any credit .. but I think I can give them much credit now because

me and mine use them faithfully .. via diffusion and direct inhalation.

I even gave Alexander Origanum to sniff prior to, during and following

our trip to the USA .. he was 4 months old when we left. None of us

became ill and air travel is one of the quickest way to catch a bug.

I was not able to bring the bottle of Oregano on the return trip because

by that time .. the terrorist dudes had been caught in London .. liquids

were no longer allowed on aircraft .. so I didn't try to bring them on.

But I did saturate two cotton balls in Oregano and put them in a

plastic baggy .. we sniffed from them often .. and by the time I got

home the plastic baggy was starting to become softened. ;-)

 

There are MANY studies showing that MANY EO are Big Bug Butt Kickers on

a wide range of Baddies .. including Staph .. E. coli .. Listeria ..

Pseudomonas .. Alcaligenes .. Enterobactercioacae .. Micrococcus ..

Bacillus .. and on and on .. as well as various Viruses and Fungi.

 

Some of the oils that have proven to KILL or greatly inhibit growth are

Mountain Savory, Tea Tree, Marjoram, Coriander, Basil, Black Pepper ..

and many others. But .. the most potent of all the EO tested .. shown

over and over again .. is the Carvacrol rich Origanums. I have many,

many such studies from both American and international universities and

independent researchers.

 

So .. I reckon soaking certain raw veggies in Oregano Hydrosol brings me

back to that extra margin of safety that goes along with the margin of

hope that comes with finger crossing. ;-)

 

> Susan H.

 

Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com

 

 

>>Hi Butch,

>>It you do not have the hydrosol, would a few drops of Oregano in water

>>shaken well work?

>

> It would take a lot of shaking .. and often. I think it would be better

> to get some Oregano Hydrosol .. and even reuse it a few times.

>

> Its very difficult to dilute EO in water. Concentrated EO does not dilute

> well .. but that EO that is suspended in the Hydrosol is a bit different ..

> more hydrophilic. The Hydrosol will more closely resemble the actual

> chemical composition of the plant anyway, because it contains both the water

> soluble and non water soluble chemical components.

>

> That's not saying the EO is not effective against E-Coli .. the above

> explanation is an attempt to explain something I can't do a better job

> explaining .. that is .. why EO does suspend well in the Hydrosol. ;-)