Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Hi all, A documentary on chemicals in the home on mainstream UK TV had an expert claim that when we put a cosmetic cream or lotion on our skin we absorb 60% of the product into our bloodstream. 60% is an awful lot of product. I seem to recall there was a thread on absorption of essential oils into the skin which the general viewpoint was that only a very small amount of chemical components from the EO's could penetrate the outer skin. Surely this claim is incorrect or am I missing something here? I would appreciate any comments on this please. Many thanks Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 we absorb 60% of the product into our bloodstream.…Surely this claim is incorrect or am I missing something here? I would appreciate any comments on this please. [Dave:] I am quite sure some of any substance will be absorbed into the skin and possibly the fatty layer beneath, and some will even get into the bloodstream. But until I see documentation, I will continue to believe that these could only be trace amounts. Sixty percent? That has to be ox droppings! -- Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release 9/29/2006 -- Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release 9/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Dawn, First thing to say is whoever said this is far from being an expert on the subject. You must differentiate between the types of substances used in tests: 1. With essential oils in fixed oil little of clinical significance is absorbed. There has been no research disproving my old article on my web site on this. There are one or two exceptions but very few. 2. Cosmetic emulsions which includes creams and lotions: There is a little evidence that essential oils may be absorbed preferentially from this medium, but the volume is miles away from that ridiculous claim of 60%. I know someone who recently went to one of the big International cosmetics conferences where this was being discussed. She told me " the scientists are still arguing as to if anything of significance is absobed from cosmetics " . These scientists are top ones in their field and not pseudo experts. Those people have access to the very latest research. If what that guy claimed were true, then we could feed ourselves by putting food on the skin. It would also not have taken 30 years of difficult research to get hormone patches and other medicines through the skin in effective volumes. Lastly, please bear in mind that TV programmes are notorious for not getting real experts in the subjects under discussion, this is particularly noted where specific technical expertise is required. Martin Watt http://www.aromamedical.com , " Dawn Blakey " <dawnblakey wrote: > > Hi all, > > A documentary on chemicals in the home on mainstream UK TV had an > expert claim that when we put a cosmetic cream or lotion on our skin > we absorb 60% of the product into our bloodstream. 60% is an awful lot > of product. I seem to recall there was a thread on absorption of > essential oils into the skin which the general viewpoint was that only > a very small amount of chemical components from the EO's could > penetrate the outer skin. Surely this claim is incorrect or am I > missing something here? I would appreciate any comments on this please. > > Many thanks > > Dawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 I think it depends on the size of the molecules in the ingredients...some molecules are too big to be absorbed very deep. , " Dawn Blakey " <dawnblakey wrote: > > Hi all, > > A documentary on chemicals in the home on mainstream UK TV had an > expert claim that when we put a cosmetic cream or lotion on our skin > we absorb 60% of the product into our bloodstream. 60% is an awful lot > of product. I seem to recall there was a thread on absorption of > essential oils into the skin which the general viewpoint was that only > a very small amount of chemical components from the EO's could > penetrate the outer skin. Surely this claim is incorrect or am I > missing something here? I would appreciate any comments on this please. > > Many thanks > > Dawn > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2006 Report Share Posted October 1, 2006 I think it depends on the size of the molecules in the ingredients.-..some molecules are too big to be absorbed very deep. [Dave:] That makes sense. I think it’s logical to assume that trace amounts of almost anything that’s regularly put on the skin will eventually circulate through the body. The whole idea of putting in botanicals and EOs that benefit the skin assumes that ingredients are absorbed as far as the outer layers of skin – which certainly brings them in contact with capillaries. Not to mention the various “patch” medicines out there. With a patch, specially made to infuse drugs into the body, I can easily believe that somewhere in the neighborhood of 60% of the medications are absorbed. With a wash-off product like soap, I can’t imagine the amount would be anywhere near that. In both cases, the size of the molecules seems like something that would make a difference. -- Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release 9/29/2006 -- Version: 7.1.407 / Virus Database: 268.12.10/459 - Release 9/29/2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hi Martin, Many thanks for your reply, coincidentally, the programme I am referring to was the one you mentioned in a separate post. It was 'Tonight' with Trevor Macdonald. The 'expert' was a woman who was giving her opinions on cleaning products etc. in the home. I was astonished to hear her make the 60% claim. The rest of the programme was a real eye opener and certainly food for thought! Many thanks and I hope you are feeling better. Dawn > Dawn, > > First thing to say is whoever said this is far from being an expert on > the subject. > > You must differentiate between the types of substances used in tests: > 1. With essential oils in fixed oil little of clinical significance is > absorbed. There has been no research disproving my old article on my > web site on this. There are one or two exceptions but very few. > > 2. Cosmetic emulsions which includes creams and lotions: There is a > little evidence that essential oils may be absorbed preferentially from > this medium, but the volume is miles away from that ridiculous claim of > 60%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Hi Dave I think you've hit the nail on the head!! Dawn Sixty percent? That has to be ox droppings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 That's right Miranda, but the claim being made was 60% of the product being applied to the skin. This was what made it so astounding. Regards Dawn > I think it depends on the size of the molecules in the > ingredients...some molecules are too big to be absorbed very deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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