Guest guest Posted October 18, 2006 Report Share Posted October 18, 2006 , Butch Owen <butchbsi wrote: > > Hey Kathleen, > > > Disagree .. me and hundreds of other folks have been trying to stop this > rumor for many years. Never, Never, Never try to wash an essential oil > from the eyes using milk .. or anything else except .. CLEAR WATER! > > This rumor began long ago and its based on a correct assumption that > leads to an incorrect conclusion. The correct assumption is that EO > will not dilute in water .. but will dilute in any fatty substance .. > like milk .. or even alcohol. > > But when one gets EO in the eye .. the intent is NOT to dilute .. and > spread the EO .. the intent is to flush it from the eye .. and water is > the ONLY liquid that will do this. > > So y'all .. do as you want to .. but if you do get EO in your eye and > you do not use water .. it will be the last time you choose to not use > water .. and that's a fact. ;-) > > Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com Chiming in with the Emergency Medicine standard here. In the ED we use a .09% Saline solution, (Your basic IV fluids), out in the fields, water. The standard is 15-20 min flush for an acid solution and a minimum of 45min/til you get to the hospital for an alkali solution. Alkalis continue to burn for an extended time, and move much quicker throught the flesh/membrane than acid, hence the extended flush time. Both should be seen by a qualified professional, but if your hesitant, and your vision is clear, your choice. Any visual changes and you risk losing your sight altogether without treatment. Milk yikes, that's like putting butter on a bad burn, makes cleanup and healing a challenge! My 2 cents only. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 " Butch http://www.AV-AT.com <http://www.av-at.com/> .. who is a Vampire now ... cause its a bit after 6 in the morning so I reckon I better crawl into my coffin for a while and catch a few ZZZZZZZZ's. ;-) " And this is different from the norm HOW? >snicker!< K On 10/19/06, Butch Owen <butchbsi wrote: > > > > -- Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2006 Report Share Posted October 19, 2006 Hi Jessica, > I don't want to be disagreeable but I once had thyme fly > into my eye and it was so painful I ran to the sink and > tried an eyewash. It continued to burn/sting so I grabbed > olive oil and put it on my eye (not sure how). It worked. > This could be an isolated incident. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing .. and it does not make one disagreeable. ;-) But the treatment you used is not recommended .. and its not that which is used by professional distillers .. or companies where folks are working a lot around EO .. and are subject to being inspected by OSHA. I have a flush system in my company .. its required. And we find that almost all the Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS) indicate that the proper First Aid treatment for EO in the eye is flush with clear water. In addition to the OSHA and MSDS bit .. water is what is really used by folks in the business .. folks who DO get EO in their eye often even though they (are supposed to) wear .. goggles. ;-) > Jessica Burman > www.cocoonapothecary.com Y'all have a good one .. and keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com .. who is a Vampire now .. cause its a bit after 6 in the morning so I reckon I better crawl into my coffin for a while and catch a few ZZZZZZZZ's. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Hey Lynn But Butter always worked for Grandma! ;-) Just kidding. I don't know why I wrote that. I was taken over by a pod person, REALLY! Actually it was just the short time between my son screaming and using the milk to calm him down long enough to stuff him under the sink. I won't every use milk again, won't mention milk again. It was just something that popped into my head under extreme circumstances and lingered for a while. Slinking under the bed in shame! K On 10/18/06, Lynn <lynn1206 wrote: > > <%40>, > Butch Owen <butchbsi wrote: > > > > Hey Kathleen, > > > > > > > Disagree .. me and hundreds of other folks have been trying to stop this > > rumor for many years. Never, Never, Never try to wash an essential oil > > from the eyes using milk .. or anything else except .. CLEAR WATER! > > > > This rumor began long ago and its based on a correct assumption that > > leads to an incorrect conclusion. The correct assumption is that EO > > will not dilute in water .. but will dilute in any fatty substance .. > > like milk .. or even alcohol. > > > > But when one gets EO in the eye .. the intent is NOT to dilute .. and > > spread the EO .. the intent is to flush it from the eye .. and water is > > the ONLY liquid that will do this. > > > > So y'all .. do as you want to .. but if you do get EO in your eye and > > you do not use water .. it will be the last time you choose to not use > > water .. and that's a fact. ;-) > > > > Y'all keep smiling. :-) Butch http://www.AV-AT.com<http://www.av-at.com/> > > Chiming in with the Emergency Medicine standard here. In the ED we > use a .09% Saline solution, (Your basic IV fluids), out in the fields, > water. The standard is 15-20 min flush for an acid solution and a > minimum of 45min/til you get to the hospital for an alkali solution. > Alkalis continue to burn for an extended time, and move much quicker > throught the flesh/membrane than acid, hence the extended flush time. > Both should be seen by a qualified professional, but if your hesitant, > and your vision is clear, your choice. Any visual changes and you > risk losing your sight altogether without treatment. > > Milk yikes, that's like putting butter on a bad burn, makes cleanup > and healing a challenge! > My 2 cents only. > Lynn > > > -- Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 , " Woobey Queen " <WoobeyQueen wrote: > > Hey Lynn > > But Butter always worked for Grandma! ;-) Just kidding. > > I don't know why I wrote that. I was taken over by a pod person, REALLY! > Actually it was just the short time between my son screaming and using the > milk to calm him down long enough to stuff him under the sink. I won't every > use milk again, won't mention milk again. It was just something that popped > into my head under extreme circumstances and lingered for a while. > > Slinking under the bed in shame! > > K Get out from under the bed Girlfriend...if I lined up all the hind sight being 20/20 stupid things I have done, and I know better..... Well around the world we might go. I posted late, after you received way to much torture, anyway...speaking of which, is there a gremlin in the posts. I am fairly meticulous in my spelling. Don't want people to think I'm stupid for the wrong reasons. I read them as they post, and have been embarassed for myself and others, now I know (OK think) it's the program, not me! Spell checked before sending ok so far...we shall see while I'm at it, Chris went to prebuy, none of the stuff on the list here reflected...see why I don't want people to think I'm stupid for the wrong reasons...Help, I'd like some, but not sure how to order, just go to order at? OK game starting got to go.. Lynn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 , " Lynn " <lynn1206 wrote: > Actually it was just the short time between my son screaming and > using the > > milk to calm him down long enough to stuff him under the sink. I > won't every > > use milk again, won't mention milk again. It was just something that > popped > > into my head under extreme circumstances and lingered for a while. > > > > Slinking under the bed in shame! > > > > K > > Get out from under the bed Girlfriend...if I lined up all the hind > sight being 20/20 stupid things I have done, and I know better..... > Well around the world we might go. > I posted late, after you received way to much torture, > anyway... I have to second this. In fact, I meant to post it earlier (but didn't want to get in the line of fire again, not anticipating you would) - my experience has been, not only with my own kids, you don't get to treat kids unless you stop the pain first. It's amazing what strength and defense a child can come up with protecting a painful area. Not to endorse harmful practices, but sometimes you got to do what you got to do, to be able to do it right. Don't feel bad - what matters most is that your son is alright Susanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2006 Report Share Posted October 20, 2006 Thanks guys. I really didn't feel that anyone was picking on me. I made a stupid mistake and then compounded it by posting it to the list where other folk who don't know better could read it and try it themselves. I'm glad Chris Lynn and Butch pointed it out so others don't make the same mistake I did. Funny thing is, it pointed out that no matter how long one has been studying oils (I got my diploma in 97) that one can still make mistakes, still have areas to fill in knowledge and also how insidiously the wrong information can seep in. I was taught to use only water, but after reading " milk " so many times, it just popped in me weak little brain during a time of stress. What was frustrating was that the little monster didn't even have that much in there. He kept twisting, turning etc. I got the milk in by having to wrestle him down on the floor. Like I said, did the trick long enough to get him under the sink. However, NEXT time (and I have no doubt there will be a next time) maybe I'll just stuff him under the shower. Then he can complain that I'm trying to drown him! LOL! K On 10/20/06, sblessinghww <sblessinghww wrote: > > <%40>, > " Lynn " <lynn1206 wrote: > > Actually it was just the short time between my son screaming and > > using the > > > milk to calm him down long enough to stuff him under the sink. I > > won't every > > > use milk again, won't mention milk again. It was just something > that > > popped > > > into my head under extreme circumstances and lingered for a > while. > > > > > > Slinking under the bed in shame! > > > > > > K > > > > Get out from under the bed Girlfriend...if I lined up all the hind > > sight being 20/20 stupid things I have done, and I know better..... > > Well around the world we might go. > > I posted late, after you received way to much torture, > > anyway... > > I have to second this. In fact, I meant to post it earlier (but > didn't want to get in the line of fire again, not anticipating you > would) - my experience has been, not only with my own kids, you > don't get to treat kids unless you stop the pain first. > It's amazing what strength and defense a child can come up with > protecting a painful area. > Not to endorse harmful practices, but sometimes you got to do what > you got to do, to be able to do it right. > > Don't feel bad - what matters most is that your son is alright > > Susanne > > > -- Cheers! Kathleen Petrides The Woobey Queen Http://www.woobeyworld.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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