New with some essential oils questions-green web sites and chemicals-

[Guest guest]

" Green web sites "

 

Many of these web sites (as with aromatherapy sites) are run by

people with no training in science. In addition, many simply parrot

information without checking if the original report was valid. We

had this last year with the scare stories over Parabens

preservatives. It all originated from a lousy piece of research done

here in the UK. Within a week the internet was buzzing with hundreds

of reports about how dangerous products containing parabens were -

most of those reports are STILL on the net and people are still being

scared. Yet the piece of science it was all based on has long since

been discredited.

 

The other really big problem is there is a massive amount of poor

science around. Only today there is a report from US researchers on

how over 200 chemicals may damage the brains of young children. I

have not yet seen that list, but I would be surprised if it does not

contain chemicals that occur in nature. A lot of these scientists

are so ignorant they do not even bother to check what natural sources

exist of the chemicals they report on, or if the natural equivalent

differs in chemical structure. For example, the reports which

suggest d-limonene is dangerous and which the EEC are looking at

putting restrictions on. The scientists preparing these reports are

so ignorant that they do not realise that the marmalade many eat

every day is loaded with d-limonene from the orange peel. Any other

food we eat that contains citrus peel also contains the natural

chemical d-limonene and there is no evidence that consumed as food

that it is harmful, indeed some reports suggest it may have anti

cancer actions as do other plant chemicals.

 

The media (including the scientific media) is constantly worrying the

public with fears of certain chemicals. What they rarely talk about

is the VOLUME needed to cause a problem. Last night I saw a TV

programme made in America called " myth busters " . They were testing

out the theory that eating food containing poppy seeds could send you

over the top in drugs tests. People there have lost their jobs when

they tested positive in these tests. The tests showed that the guys

were testing positive for hours after consuming the bread and a cake

with these seeds. The real problem is not that poppy seeds contain

minute traces of the morphine-like drugs which with normal

consumption will have absolutely no detrimental effects. The problem

is the tests are just too damned sensitive because of ill thought

through chemistry. So if you see morphine is toxic, you have to

say " how much " .

 

I recently had a stomach operation which left me with severe diarrhea

for weeks. What helped stop that was a " terribly toxic " plant

called deadly nightshade. Yes if you consume too much it could kill

someone, if you consume the correct amount it is a fine medicine on

which many modern drugs are based. So is it right to just

say " Atropa Belladonna is toxic " ?

 

Martin Watt

 

, " susan " <ripple95 wrote:

>

> Never having studied chemistry I'm trying to remain neutral to the

> information from the " green " websites until I've learned more. They

> tell you all the toxic, cancer causing chemicals that go into making

> fragrances, tell you to substitute essential oils, but never explain

> the chemicals in them. I would hate to find that I have up

commercial

> brand soap, made my own with essential oils then substituted one

> dangerous chemical for another. Susan

[Guest guest]

One thing that I think is important to understand is that in nature there

are " buffers and balancers " to help out with what may known as " poisonous or

cancer causing " chemicals. Too many times scientific studies just focus on one

chemical from any given plant that is separated from the plant as a whole

,tested at huge amounts on animals( over and above what any human may consume in

even a lifetime!) and of course is then " flagged " and said to be cancer

causing! In reality that plant may very well have the ability with all the

chemicals within its structure to counter balance the

" poisonous or cancer causing " chemicals within our bodies.. Science cant just

" dissect nature " It isnt that cut & dry. Sherri Reehil-Welser

Namaste' Healing Arts

Center

www.namastehealingarts.com

 

aromamedical2003 <aromamedical wrote:

" Green web sites "

 

Many of these web sites (as with aromatherapy sites) are run by

people with no training in science. In addition, many simply parrot

information without checking if the original report was valid. We

had this last year with the scare stories over Parabens

preservatives. It all originated from a lousy piece of research done

here in the UK. Within a week the internet was buzzing with hundreds

of reports about how dangerous products containing parabens were -

most of those reports are STILL on the net and people are still being

scared. Yet the piece of science it was all based on has long since

been discredited.

 

The other really big problem is there is a massive amount of poor

science around. Only today there is a report from US researchers on

how over 200 chemicals may damage the brains of young children. I

have not yet seen that list, but I would be surprised if it does not

contain chemicals that occur in nature. A lot of these scientists

are so ignorant they do not even bother to check what natural sources

exist of the chemicals they report on, or if the natural equivalent

differs in chemical structure. For example, the reports which

suggest d-limonene is dangerous and which the EEC are looking at

putting restrictions on. The scientists preparing these reports are

so ignorant that they do not realise that the marmalade many eat

every day is loaded with d-limonene from the orange peel. Any other

food we eat that contains citrus peel also contains the natural

chemical d-limonene and there is no evidence that consumed as food

that it is harmful, indeed some reports suggest it may have anti

cancer actions as do other plant chemicals.

 

The media (including the scientific media) is constantly worrying the

public with fears of certain chemicals. What they rarely talk about

is the VOLUME needed to cause a problem. Last night I saw a TV

programme made in America called " myth busters " . They were testing

out the theory that eating food containing poppy seeds could send you

over the top in drugs tests. People there have lost their jobs when

they tested positive in these tests. The tests showed that the guys

were testing positive for hours after consuming the bread and a cake

with these seeds. The real problem is not that poppy seeds contain

minute traces of the morphine-like drugs which with normal

consumption will have absolutely no detrimental effects. The problem

is the tests are just too damned sensitive because of ill thought

through chemistry. So if you see morphine is toxic, you have to

say " how much " .

 

I recently had a stomach operation which left me with severe diarrhea

for weeks. What helped stop that was a " terribly toxic " plant

called deadly nightshade. Yes if you consume too much it could kill

someone, if you consume the correct amount it is a fine medicine on

which many modern drugs are based. So is it right to just

say " Atropa Belladonna is toxic " ?

 

Martin Watt

 

, " susan " <ripple95 wrote:

>

> Never having studied chemistry I'm trying to remain neutral to the

> information from the " green " websites until I've learned more. They

> tell you all the toxic, cancer causing chemicals that go into making

> fragrances, tell you to substitute essential oils, but never explain

> the chemicals in them. I would hate to find that I have up

commercial

> brand soap, made my own with essential oils then substituted one

> dangerous chemical for another. Susan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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