Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 I am nobody's military friend, but thought it was funny and Butch would appreciate it fershur. Some serious questions at the end. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Tell you not to do something stupid when drunk MILITARY FRIENDS: Will post 360 security so you dont get caught CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Call your parents Mr. and Mrs MILITARY FRIENDS: Call your parents Drunk as hell and tell them about the fat chick you tried to pick up CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Hope the night out drinking goes smoothly, and hope that no one is late for the ride home. MILITARY FRIENDS: Know some wild shit will happen, and set up rally points and an E & E route. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Bail you out of jail and tell you what you did was wrong. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will be sitting next to you saying, Damn...we fucked up...but hey, that shit was un as fuck! " CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Cry with you. MILITARY FRIENDS: laugh at you and tell you to put some vagasil on your pussy. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Borrow your stuff for a few days then give it back. MILITARY FRIENDS: Steal each other's stuff so often nobody remembers who bought it in the first place. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Are happy that someone picked up a one night stand and leave them alone. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will Low Crawl naked into the room with a camera and hope for the tag team. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will listen to your relationship problems and hope it works out for you. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will listen to you over a long hard road march, and will help you straighten it out better than Dr. Phil. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: know a few things about you. MILITARY FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct quotes from you. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Might try to hit on your girl behind your back. MILITARY FRIENDS: Have spooned with you in the field more than your girl has, and would never even think about doing that. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's what the crowd is doing. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will kick the whole crowds ass that left you. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Would knock on your door. MILITARY FRIENDS: Walk right in and say, " I'm home! " CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will try and talk to the bouncer when you get tossed out of the bar. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will man up and go after the bouncer for touching you on the way out. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will wish you had enough money to go out that night, and are sorry you couldn't come. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will share their last dollar with you, drag you along, and try to steal free drinks all night. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will take your drink away when they think you've had enough. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will look at you stumbling all over the place and say, " Bitch, you better drink the rest of that shit, you know we don't waste.. That's alcohol abuse!!! " CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Want the money they loaned you back next week. MILITARY FRIENDS: Can't begin to remember who owes who money after taking care of each other for so long. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will say " I can't handle Tequila anymore " . MILITARY FRIENDS: Will say " okay just one more " and then 2 minutes later " okay just one more " . CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will talk shit to the person who talks shit about you. MILITARY FRIENDS: Will knock them the fuck out!! CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will tell you " They'd take a bullet for you. " MILITARY FRIENDS: Will actually take a bullet for you. CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will ignore this MILITARY FRIENDS: Will repost this Serious Question: Is there any way we could have the benefit of what armies do for people (discipline, comradeship, putting a greater cause first) without having to do this insane WAR thing? Obviously some people thrive on putting their lives on the line, especially as part of a team. Look at all the extreme sports. Isn't there a better way to harnass that? We have a dying planet on our hands. How about extreme environmental duties? How about space flight? Yeah, some people might die. SO? How many sailors died during the age of discovery? Since when is adventure supposed to be totally safe? Just food for thought. Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Sorry folks, I should have edited the sweary words before approving this message, so my apologies to anyone who may be upset by this. In hindsight, I should have probably just forwarded it to Butch. Sorry, I screwed up. I will be more diligent in the future. Have a great weekend. Carol _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Ien, Just some more food for thought for you. Do you realize that you could not have posted this email had not it been for some soldier protecting your right to do so? The military is not the problem but the politicians that we, the people, put into office. So next time you vote, think about what and whom you are voting for because they are the ones who create the problems and not the soldiers. Soldiers carry out the orders. Politicians make the policies and the problems that the military has to clean up. This is my opinion and I could express more on the subject but I think that I have said enough. You are entitled to your opinion but please, rethink your opinion on where the problems really come from. Then you may think a little differently. Remember that we have the freedoms we have today because of our militaries and the democratic systems we have. Democracy may not be the best form of government but we live under it and until someone can come up with something better that a dictatorship or slavery I will chose democracy and its freedoms which include having a strong army. If you don't care for this form of government I could suggest you moving to a country where you have no freedoms but I won't. Freedom is something that we all must stand up and take a look at to see if it needs tweaking and that is where our right to vote can and should change things but in order to have his freedom to vote we must have a strong military to ensure our right to vote. What do you propose to replace the military with? You suggest that all military is a problem but yet, you give us no alternative. There is no answer in my opinion but if you have one, please share it. You may have an answer to replacing the military that is better than anything anyone else has come up with. Butch, if you remember, will not be back until about the middle of January, 2007. He is in Russia with his family enjoying the Holidays there. So I thought that I would answer this. Take care and have a great weekend! I hope that you rethink your position. With love and friendship and a different opinion expressed given to me by a soldier, Rhavda Emison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Carol, Don't apologize because I have sent an answer to Ien just before I saw your email of apology. I have tried to answer for Butch and the other mothers and family members of military on this list in a loving manner. If my email is inappropriate then email me back and tell me. I will not be offended. I am just answering for those of us who are offended but need to express a " loving " opinion back. I believe that Ien needs to rethink her opinion and email to our group. I chose to answer her in a friendly manner so as not to inflame or flame anyone else on our list. We are a community of wonderful, different, and complex people who deserve to be monitored every so often when we get " carried away " with a belief/beliefs that are not consistent with normally held views on this list. Thank you for listening and if I need to apologize, then I apologize now. Have a wonderful weekend! Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- cjpearce cjpearce Sat, 2 Dec 2006 11:29:41 -0500 RE: Off Topic/For Butch Sorry folks, I should have edited the sweary words before approving this message, so my apologies to anyone who may be upset by this. In hindsight, I should have probably just forwarded it to Butch. Sorry, I screwed up. I will be more diligent in the future. Have a great weekend. Carol _____ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Be thankful there are soldiers who DIE for your right to have your opinions! Nuff said, Vickie - " Ieneke van Houten " <ienvan Saturday, December 02, 2006 3:43 AM Off Topic/For Butch >I am nobody's military friend, but thought > it was funny and Butch would appreciate > it fershur. Some serious questions at the > end. > > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Tell you not to do something > stupid when drunk > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will post 360 security so you dont > get caught > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Call your parents Mr. and Mrs > MILITARY FRIENDS: Call your parents Drunk as hell > and tell them about the fat chick you tried to pick up > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Hope the night out drinking goes > smoothly, and hope that no one is late for the ride home. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Know some wild shit will happen, > and set up rally points and an E & E route. > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Bail you out of jail and tell you > what you did was wrong. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will be sitting next to you > saying, Damn...we fucked up...but hey, that shit was > un as fuck! " > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Cry with you. > MILITARY FRIENDS: laugh at you and tell you to put > some vagasil on your pussy. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Borrow your stuff for a few days > then give it back. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Steal each other's stuff so often > nobody remembers who bought it in the first place. > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Are happy that someone picked up a > one night stand and leave them alone. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will Low Crawl naked into the room > with a camera and hope for the tag team. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will listen to your relationship > problems and hope it works out for you. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will listen to you over a long > hard road march, and will help you straighten it out better > than Dr. Phil. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: know a few things about you. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct > quotes from you. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Might try to hit on your girl > behind your back. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Have spooned with you in the field > more than your girl has, and would never even think about doing > that. > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will leave you behind if that's > what the crowd is doing. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will kick the whole crowds ass > that left you. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Would knock on your door. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Walk right in and say, " I'm home! " > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will try and talk to the bouncer > when you get tossed out of the bar. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will man up and go after the > bouncer for touching you on the way out. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will wish you had enough money to > go out that night, and are sorry you couldn't come. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will share their last dollar with > you, drag you along, and try to steal free drinks all night. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will take your drink away when > they think you've had enough. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will look at you stumbling all > over the place and say, " Bitch, you better drink the rest > of that shit, you know we don't waste.. That's alcohol abuse!!! " > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Want the money they loaned you > back next week. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Can't begin to remember who owes > who money after taking care of each other for so long. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will say " I can't handle Tequila > anymore " . > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will say " okay just one more " and > then 2 minutes later " okay just one more " . > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will talk shit to the person who > talks shit about you. > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will knock them the fuck out!! > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will tell you " They'd take a > bullet for you. " > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will actually take a bullet for > you. > > CIVILIAN FRIENDS: Will ignore this > MILITARY FRIENDS: Will repost this > > Serious Question: > > Is there any way we could have the benefit > of what armies do for people (discipline, > comradeship, putting a greater cause first) > without having to do this insane WAR thing? > > Obviously some people thrive on putting their > lives on the line, especially as part of a team. > Look at all the extreme sports. > Isn't there a better way to harnass that? > > We have a dying planet on our hands. > How about extreme environmental duties? > How about space flight? > Yeah, some people might die. SO? > How many sailors died during the age of discovery? > Since when is adventure supposed to be totally safe? > > Just food for thought. > Ien in the Kootenays > http://freegreenliving.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Rhavda and all: ??????????????????? Talk about misunderstandings! This was sent to me by a friend who does work for the USA army. It actually was sent on in a spirit of appreciation for honest soldiers, which has nothing to do with the politics of those who send them out. Here is the way I read it: Civilian friends may more polished on the surface, but your military friends will stand by you through thick and thin in their own unique way, and lay down their lives for you if needed. Reading it almost made me wish I were in the army. Does it make more sense now? In friendship Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Could have prefaced the piece with a TV-stlye warning: " May contain violence, nudity, sexuality and coarse language. Parental discretion is adviced. " But I thought this was an audience of adults. Once again: it was meant, humorously, to HONOR soldiers, not attack them. As it says in the preface of a Canadian political comedy " Some people may not share this sense of humour. " My apologies to those who don't. At least I hope the intention is now clear. It will be interesting to see if it makes Butch laugh, eventually. In friendship Ien in the Kootenays http://freegreenliving.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Be thankful there are soldiers who DIE for your right to have your opinions! Nuff said, Vickie I AM. That's why I sent them a laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 That's exactly how I read it. At first it sounded like it was a rant against the soldiers but as you read it you get the true intent. Susan > > Dear Rhavda and all: > > ??????????????????? > Talk about misunderstandings! > > This was sent to me by a friend who does work > for the USA army. It actually was sent on in a spirit > of appreciation for honest soldiers, which has nothing > to do with the politics of those who send them out. > > Here is the way I read it: > > Civilian friends may more polished on the surface, > but your military friends will stand by you through > thick and thin in their own unique way, and lay down > their lives for you if needed. > > Reading it almost made me wish I were in the army. > Does it make more sense now? > > In friendship > > Ien in the Kootenays > http://freegreenliving.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Ien, Just some more food for thought for you. Do you realize that you could not have posted this email had not it been for some soldier protecting your right to do so? [Dave:] About the military camaraderie in that piece: damn right. -- Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.3/562 - Release 12/1/2006 1:12 PM -- Version: 7.5.430 / Virus Database: 268.15.4/563 - Release 12/2/2006 9:59 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2006 Report Share Posted December 2, 2006 Dear Ien, Carol, Viki, and others, Let's move on now to a different subject. It's time to change and get back to aromtherapy and its world of problems and wonders and Christmas cheer as Carol is trying to do. Ien, if I misintrepreted your email, forgive me but it sure sounded like something totally different. Well, gang, let's talk about Christmas and Hannaukak and what we are making. I'm making Hannaukak Oils and Special Christmas blends of the Oils of the Wise Men along with special orders. What are you making? Happy Holidays! Rhavda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > Be thankful there are soldiers who DIE for your right to have your opinions! > > Nuff said, > Vickie > > MILITARY FRIENDS: Could write a book with direct > > quotes from you. Vickie, I think you totally missed the point...in this " scenario " ...the Military Friends are being presented as the " best " friend a person can have. This was supposed to be POSITIVE!! Think Paris Hilton, Britney Spears & Lindsey Lohan...all supporting each other through each and every bad decision! :^} Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 > It will be interesting to see if it makes Butch laugh, > eventually. Butch has enough class to edit out the *pussy* comments, I am QUITE sure! As a woman...this and the " c-word " always bother me a GREAT deal, and I am no prude. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 >Well, gang, let's talk about Christmas and Hannaukak and what we are making. I'm making Hannaukak Oils and Special Christmas blends of the Oils of the Wise Men along with special orders. What are you making?< It's spelled " Hanukkah " . Or Chanukah. WINTER SOLSTICE December 21st: The celebration of the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year. It is the celebration rebirth of the Sun, which is the promise of spring and life even on this the darkest day. Therefore some consider this the new year. The burning of the log is to give the Sun strength. Mumming (plays) such as " St. George " is a Pagan survival , it represents the rebirth of the God. Wassailing or is also a Pagan custom. The Roman festival of the Solstice was Saturnalia, which lasted from December 17th to the 24th. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2006 Report Share Posted December 3, 2006 Dear Sue, I didn't have a dictionary close so please forgive my spelling of Hannaukkah. I was just trying to move us on to another topic. Rhavda Original Message: ----------------- CT HERB Email Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:26:25 -0000 Re: Off Topic/For Butch >Well, gang, let's talk about Christmas and Hannaukak and what we are making. I'm making Hannaukak Oils and Special Christmas blends of the Oils of the Wise Men along with special orders. What are you making?< It's spelled " Hanukkah " . Or Chanukah. WINTER SOLSTICE December 21st: The celebration of the winter solstice, the shortest day of the year. It is the celebration rebirth of the Sun, which is the promise of spring and life even on this the darkest day. Therefore some consider this the new year. The burning of the log is to give the Sun strength. Mumming (plays) such as " St. George " is a Pagan survival , it represents the rebirth of the God. Wassailing or is also a Pagan custom. The Roman festival of the Solstice was Saturnalia, which lasted from December 17th to the 24th. Sue -- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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