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[Guest guest]

> Our soap bases have been made fresh for this sale and are ready for

> immediate shipping. The liquid soap pastes are unscented and

> preservatives have not been added.

>

Just wondering; since you mention preservatives have not been added

does that mean preservatives should be added once the soap is received

or does the soap require no preservatives? Sorry if this is a crazy

question but I'm trying to get a handle on the preservative subject as

to when and where they are needed and there's a lot of confusing info

on the topic. Thanks, Susan

[Guest guest]

Hi Susan,

 

The preservative issue sure can be tricky!

 

I leave the soap paste without preservatives, as the pH is high enough

(about 9-10) to be a hostile environment for the growth of ickies.

Additionally, many of my customers either want to leave it preservative

free, or formulate products with it that have their own specific

preservation needs.

 

I do have bottles of plain liquid soap that I have made for my personal

use, that I have left sitting around for many moons, and they have never

showed signs of icky things growing in them. Since its already a

non-icky friendly environment, essential oils can also effectively be

used to further inhibit the growth of ickies.

 

So, to sum it up .. if I was not going to reduce the soap's pH, and was

going make small batches that will be used in a reasonable length of

time (a year or so) for myself, I'd personally skip the preservative.

 

Now, if I were going to formulate with the soap, change the pH, go to

market with it for the general public, etc .. I'd have different issues

to consider .. and like any good manufacturer putting a product on the

market, I'd do considerable research and make an informed decision from

there ...

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

 

100% Pure Olive Liquid Soap Concentrate - ON SALE

http://www.alittleolfactory.com/sales.htm

 

 

>>

> Just wondering; since you mention preservatives have not been added

> does that mean preservatives should be added once the soap is received

> or does the soap require no preservatives? Sorry if this is a crazy

> question but I'm trying to get a handle on the preservative subject as

> to when and where they are needed and there's a lot of confusing info

> on the topic. Thanks, Susan

>

[Guest guest]

AAARRGG! This is driving me crazy! I've read the controversy around

using it/not using/in certain cosmetic and natural beauty items from

many different sources but I thought soap was one thing you would not

need a preservative for. I've been reading up a lot on the process

and haven't come across much regarding preservatives in soap. One

book I have uses benzoin powder in recipes where fruits have been

added which is understandable but other recipes in other places make

no such reference. So, if I'm buying soap, let's say I ordered some

bar soaps from you, are they made with preservatives as you are

selling to the public? And if I were to make soap and sell to the

public should I be preserving it or making reference, as you did, that

the soap contains no preservatives? Thanks, Susan

 

 

 

, Christine Ziegler

<chrisziggy wrote:

>

> Hi Susan,

>

> The preservative issue sure can be tricky!

>

> I leave the soap paste without preservatives, as the pH is high enough

> (about 9-10) to be a hostile environment for the growth of ickies.

> Additionally, many of my customers either want to leave it preservative

> free, or formulate products with it that have their own specific

> preservation needs.

>

> I do have bottles of plain liquid soap that I have made for my personal

> use, that I have left sitting around for many moons, and they have

never

> showed signs of icky things growing in them. Since its already a

> non-icky friendly environment, essential oils can also effectively be

> used to further inhibit the growth of ickies.

>

> So, to sum it up .. if I was not going to reduce the soap's pH, and was

> going make small batches that will be used in a reasonable length of

> time (a year or so) for myself, I'd personally skip the preservative.

>

> Now, if I were going to formulate with the soap, change the pH, go to

> market with it for the general public, etc .. I'd have different issues

> to consider .. and like any good manufacturer putting a product on the

> market, I'd do considerable research and make an informed decision from

> there ...

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Susan,

 

Sorry .. I'm not trying to drive you crazy

 

You should not need a preservative for bar soap.

 

You don't even really need a preservative for basic liquid soap (in

most) cases, BUT liquid soap has water added to make it liquid, so the

water needs to be uncontaminated distilled water, and it has to be a

liquid soap with a relatively high pH. I say it that way because some

folks add things like borax and citric acid to bring down the pH of

their liquid soap, and depending on how neutral one goes, a preservative

may then be needed.

 

Also, formulating products like shower gel, etc, with the liquid soap

paste, can change the pH and make it less alkaline, or the formula may

contain other ingredients that need a preservative ... and those would

also be cases where preservatives might very well be needed.

 

I hope that clarified it some for you

 

*Smile*

Chris (list mom)

http://www.alittleolfactory.com

 

 

susan wrote:

> AAARRGG! This is driving me crazy! I've read the controversy around

> using it/not using/in certain cosmetic and natural beauty items from

> many different sources but I thought soap was one thing you would not

> need a preservative for. I've been reading up a lot on the process

> and haven't come across much regarding preservatives in soap. One

> book I have uses benzoin powder in recipes where fruits have been

> added which is understandable but other recipes in other places make

> no such reference. So, if I'm buying soap, let's say I ordered some

> bar soaps from you, are they made with preservatives as you are

> selling to the public? And if I were to make soap and sell to the

> public should I be preserving it or making reference, as you did, that

> the soap contains no preservatives? Thanks, Susan

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for that very clear answer-I feel slightly less

crazy now! (And you weren't making me crazy-it's ALL the info that's

all over the place. Sometimes one can read too much and all the

different opinions and personal preferances muddy things up).

 

 

 

, Christine Ziegler

<chrisziggy wrote:

>

> Hi Susan,

>

> Sorry .. I'm not trying to drive you crazy

>

> You should not need a preservative for bar soap.

>

> You don't even really need a preservative for basic liquid soap (in

> most) cases, BUT liquid soap has water added to make it liquid, so the

> water needs to be uncontaminated distilled water, and it has to be a

> liquid soap with a relatively high pH. I say it that way because some

> folks add things like borax and citric acid to bring down the pH of

> their liquid soap, and depending on how neutral one goes, a

preservative

> may then be needed.

>

> Also, formulating products like shower gel, etc, with the liquid soap

> paste, can change the pH and make it less alkaline, or the formula may

> contain other ingredients that need a preservative ... and those would

> also be cases where preservatives might very well be needed.

>

> I hope that clarified it some for you

>

> *Smile*

> Chris (list mom)

> http://www.alittleolfactory.com

>

>

> susan wrote:

> > AAARRGG! This is driving me crazy! I've read the controversy around

> > using it/not using/in certain cosmetic and natural beauty items from

> > many different sources but I thought soap was one thing you would not

> > need a preservative for. I've been reading up a lot on the process

> > and haven't come across much regarding preservatives in soap. One

> > book I have uses benzoin powder in recipes where fruits have been

> > added which is understandable but other recipes in other places make

> > no such reference. So, if I'm buying soap, let's say I ordered some

> > bar soaps from you, are they made with preservatives as you are

> > selling to the public? And if I were to make soap and sell to the

> > public should I be preserving it or making reference, as you did, that

> > the soap contains no preservatives? Thanks, Susan

> >

> >

>