Guest guest Posted February 23, 2007 Report Share Posted February 23, 2007 This article blew me away. It confirms what I already knew, but the numbers are staggering! " The entire drug industry, including the monopolistic drug giants and their FDA co-conspirator, has clearly become the single greatest threat to the health and safety of the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/American_people.html " American people… " HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/021635.html " http://www.newstarget.com/021635.html always mangles links when I post them, so here’s the text of the article: (NewsTarget) Poisoning from prescription drugs has risen to become the second-largest cause of unintentional deaths in the United States, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers found that deaths from prescription drugs rose from 4.4 per 100,000 people in 1999 to 7.1 per 100,000 in 2004. This increase represents a jump from 11,000 people to almost 20,000 in the span of five years. Among the 20,000 that died, more than 8,500 – double the number from 1999 -- were from " other and unspecified drugs. " Psychotherapeutic drugs, like antidepressants and sedatives, nearly doubled from 671 deaths to 1,300. Age-wise, the biggest jump was among people aged 15 to 24, which the CDC report says relates to recreational HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/prescription_drug.html " prescription drug use and a jump in cocaine use. However, all other age groups except the elderly over-75 group saw increases of more than 35 percent on a per 100,000 scale in prescription drug deaths – including a nearly 90 percent jump for the late Baby Boomer generation (ages 45 to 54) and a more than 90 percent for people aged 55 to 64. Mike Adams, a consumer health advocate and outspoken critic of pharmaceutical companies, said that the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/drug_industry.html " drug industry is freely killing Americans. " The entire drug industry, including the monopolistic drug giants and their FDA co-conspirator, has clearly become the single greatest threat to the health and safety of the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/American_people.html " American people, " Adams said. " And yet HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/the_FDA.html " the FDA continues to push more drugs onto more Americans than ever before, all while pretending these drugs are safe and effective when, in reality, they are neither. Today's pharmaceutical industry is a massive fraud being perpetrated against the American people, propped up by illegal trade practices, monopolistic behavior and outright criminal behavior on the part of the FDA. " One caveat of the report is that the data used did not allow HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/suicides.html " suicides to be separated from other drug deaths, meaning there may be inherent errors because it was impossible to tell after death the intent or reason for a person's death from HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/prescription_drugs.html " prescription drugs. " Some of these deaths might have been suicides, although not classified as such, and some deaths categorized as suicides or of undetermined intent might have been unintentional and therefore not analyzed in this study. The extent of this error is not known, " the report states. However, statistics from the web site HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/suicide.html " suicide.org state that in 2001, nearly 5,200 deaths came from self-poisoning, which includes not only abusing prescription drugs but also overdosing on over-the-counter drugs and ingesting lethal chemicals. The CDC report can be read in full HYPERLINK " http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5605a1.htm " \nat this link. " Organized war is not a human instinct. It is a highly planned and co-operative form of theft. " -Jacob Bronowski -- Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release 2/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 Yes, but they keep many of us alive too. Peggy Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. www.LMsoap.com This article blew me away. It confirms what I already knew, but the numbers are staggering! " The entire drug industry, including the monopolistic drug giants and their FDA co-conspirator, has clearly become the single greatest threat to the health and safety of the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/American_people.html " American people… " HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/021635.html " http://www.newstarget.com/021635.html always mangles links when I post them, so here’s the text of the article: (NewsTarget) Poisoning from prescription drugs has risen to become the second-largest cause of unintentional deaths in the United States, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. In its Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, researchers found that deaths from prescription drugs rose from 4.4 per 100,000 people in 1999 to 7.1 per 100,000 in 2004. This increase represents a jump from 11,000 people to almost 20,000 in the span of five years. Among the 20,000 that died, more than 8,500 – double the number from 1999 -- were from " other and unspecified drugs. " Psychotherapeutic drugs, like antidepressants and sedatives, nearly doubled from 671 deaths to 1,300. Age-wise, the biggest jump was among people aged 15 to 24, which the CDC report says relates to recreational HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/prescription_drug.html " prescription drug use and a jump in cocaine use. However, all other age groups except the elderly over-75 group saw increases of more than 35 percent on a per 100,000 scale in prescription drug deaths – including a nearly 90 percent jump for the late Baby Boomer generation (ages 45 to 54) and a more than 90 percent for people aged 55 to 64. Mike Adams, a consumer health advocate and outspoken critic of pharmaceutical companies, said that the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/drug_industry.html " drug industry is freely killing Americans. " The entire drug industry, including the monopolistic drug giants and their FDA co-conspirator, has clearly become the single greatest threat to the health and safety of the HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/American_people.html " American people, " Adams said. " And yet HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/the_FDA.html " the FDA continues to push more drugs onto more Americans than ever before, all while pretending these drugs are safe and effective when, in reality, they are neither. Today's pharmaceutical industry is a massive fraud being perpetrated against the American people, propped up by illegal trade practices, monopolistic behavior and outright criminal behavior on the part of the FDA. " One caveat of the report is that the data used did not allow HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/suicides.html " suicides to be separated from other drug deaths, meaning there may be inherent errors because it was impossible to tell after death the intent or reason for a person's death from HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/prescription_drugs.html " prescription drugs. " Some of these deaths might have been suicides, although not classified as such, and some deaths categorized as suicides or of undetermined intent might have been unintentional and therefore not analyzed in this study. The extent of this error is not known, " the report states. However, statistics from the web site HYPERLINK " http://www.newstarget.com/suicide.html " suicide.org state that in 2001, nearly 5,200 deaths came from self-poisoning, which includes not only abusing prescription drugs but also overdosing on over-the-counter drugs and ingesting lethal chemicals. The CDC report can be read in full HYPERLINK " http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5605a1.htm " \nat this link. " Organized war is not a human instinct. It is a highly planned and co-operative form of theft. " -Jacob Bronowski -- Version: 7.5.441 / Virus Database: 268.18.3/699 - Release 2/23/2007 1:26 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2007 Report Share Posted February 27, 2007 In a message dated 2/27/07 5:40:02 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dlmbrt writes: > When I was disabled with carpal tunnel syndrome 15 years ago and > the doctor was ready to cut on my wrists, I decided to treat it myself. My > doctor laughed at me - literally! - but I never saw him again, and I cured > myself. > How did you treat your carpal tunnel - I am thinking that I am developing this Lesley ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 > Yes, but they keep many of us alive too. > Peggy > Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. > www.LMsoap.com [Dave:] They do, and there's no denying it. But in this age when Big Pharma is marketing their stuff directly to the public, it's more important than ever to own our own health and make informed decisions. Here's an example. My wife has fibromyalgia, and over the last 20 years or so has become more and more disabled. There have been times when she just hasn't wanted to go on, every day in pain and without hope of improvement. The only thing the doctors have ever given her is pain meds, and when they quit working due to tolerance build-up, they pile on antidepressants. About two months ago I began taking her to a naturopath. This guy does nothing but counseling and massage, and yet she's in better shape now than she's been since I've known her. Plus, she has something no doctor ever gave her before, and that's hope. Lifestyle changes, not prescriptions, have made the difference. Another example. Last November I missed a week of work with the flu, and they wouldn't let me go back to work without a doctor's note - otherwise I'd never have gone to an allopath even though I have coverage. They told me it was not the flu but my heart. They used the term " walking time-bomb " and generally scared me because I had a heart attack in 1992. After two months of tests, they've decided my heart is normal (which it isn't), but they want me to take statins anyway. The whole episode pretty well destroyed my provider's credibility as far as I'm concerned. I am totally convinced that a red flag went up when a 56-year-old man who is NOT on ANY daily meds came through that door. They just wanted to pull me in, and I would rather take responsibility for my own health. If and when I get catastrophically ill, or need surgery, or something like that, I will deal with the medical establishment and be grateful. Until then, I'm on my own which is how I like it. I have arthritis and gout, and am perfectly able to treat them on my own. When I was disabled with carpal tunnel syndrome 15 years ago and the doctor was ready to cut on my wrists, I decided to treat it myself. My doctor laughed at me - literally! - but I never saw him again, and I cured myself. My point is, don't ever assume that doctors have your best interest at heart. After all, if you're well, he loses a customer. So his vested interest is to keep you coming back. Anyone who assumes all standard medicine is bad is simply wrong. But so is anyone who assumes it's all good. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release 2/27/2007 3:24 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 How did you treat your carpal tunnel - I am thinking that I am developing this [Dave:] Lesley, at the time I had just heard of antioxidants, and I had just begun drinking kombucha tea regularly. I had so much pain not only in my wrists but also in the elbows and shoulders that I very rarely slept through the night. I took prescription pain meds and spiked them with handfuls of ibuprofen. I could barely hold a pen well enough to write my name. This didn’t happen overnight of course. I was desperate, but I wanted to try something on my own before letting this guy cut on me. I began taking large doses of pycnogenol – later replaced with grapeseed extract when I learned more about antioxidants – along with massive doses of vitamin C – about 2 grams daily. I began making kombucha a daily part of my diet. My doctor laughed out loud, but I had so much relief within a week that I simply never went back to see the guy. I still have some intermittent numbness in my fingertips, and I can’t ride a bicycle with downturned handlebars very much, but I can ride a mountain bike, and I can write pages – which is important to me, as I collect vintage fountain pens. I can’t say this will work for you but it worked for me. You know, they say that carpal tunnel is caused by repetitive motion – but if that’s the case, why is it not a disease of pianists? I don’t know what causes it. I do know that aggressive treatment with antioxidants and kombucha worked for me. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release 2/27/2007 3:24 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I hate to be a pain, but I want to make sure I got this all correct, because I'd like to try it too: Grapeseed Extract Vitamin C (2 grams daily) Kombucha You took all of these simultaneously, right? Do you continue to take them in the same amounts now that you're better? Susan H. How did you treat your carpal tunnel - I am thinking that I am developing this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I keep my carpal tunnel under control with Vit. B6 - 200 mg twice a day. , AlladinG wrote: >> > How did you treat your carpal tunnel - I am thinking that I am developing > this > > Lesley > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 , " David Lambert " <dlmbrt wrote: > > > > Yes, but they keep many of us alive too. > > Peggy > > Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. > > www.LMsoap.com > [Dave:] They do, and there's no denying it. But in this age when Big > Pharma is marketing their stuff directly to the public, it's more important ------- There are many alternatives to drugs and allopathic medicine, but how many insurance companies cover it? Insurance companies even balk at providing screening tests like mammograms. If you have insurance, it doesn't mind paying for surgery, but less extreme measures like physical therapy, or theraputic massage they are less likely to approve. They also limit the time a Doctor can charge for seeing a patient. One of my Doctors was dropping out of my health plan because they only covered a 15 minute visit with a patient. Insurance and Drug companies go hand in hand as I see it. By having drug treatment available they push doctors into " drive through " medicine, where the goal is to get the patient out as quickly as possible. It is the same with hospital stays. My doctor told me it is a constant struggle whenever she has to hospitalize someone to convince the insurance company that it is necessary. So when it comes to those who are economically challenged or who rely on Medicaid or Medicare, they are really not likely to get alternative options. Joanne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 So when it comes to those who are economically challenged or who rely on Medicaid or Medicare, they are really not likely to get alternative options. [Dave:] This is sadly true, and I don’t think I foresee changes very soon. In defense of doctors, I realize that their hands are tied in many ways, and that they mostly have some major gaps in their education, such as nutrition. But the medical, chemical and insurance industries have forged a powerful, incestuous alliance that far more interested in profits than public health. BTW, my wife got a letter the other day informing her that she had been allotted a cost-of-living increase of $47 a month on her disability. The next day a letter arrived from Kaiser. They raised her premium by, you guessed it: $47 per month. Thrive, indeed. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/706 - Release 2/28/2007 4:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2007 Report Share Posted February 28, 2007 I hate to be a pain, but I want to make sure I got this all correct, because I'd like to try it too: Grapeseed Extract Vitamin C (2 grams daily) Kombucha You took all of these simultaneously, right? Do you continue to take them in the same amounts now that you're better? [Dave:] Yes, I took these simultaneously. I have since learned that you can take far more vitamin C, up to 10 grams a day. Any excess that your body can’t use simply leaves in your urine. If your urine burns, you’re taking too much. Grapeseed extract is very high in proanthocyanidins, and yes, I still take all of these, although not as regularly and not in such high doses. I haven’t been bothered by carpal tunnel in many years, but now I have the beginnings of rheumatoid arthritis, and for that I have begun taking hyaluronic acid and astaxathin complex. Hopefully it will help. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.4/705 - Release 2/27/2007 3:24 PM -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/706 - Release 2/28/2007 4:09 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 but now I have the beginnings of rheumatoid arthritis, and for that I have begun taking hyaluronic acid and astaxathin complex. Hopefully it will help. =====I'm sorry to hear this. My sister was diagnosed several years ago and I know the meds she takes are harsh on her stomach. I hope you're successful. Susan H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Dave, Taking more Vit C than your body needs or can absorb can also cause diarrhea. If this happens, you are taking too much and should cut back. This is another good indicator. EFA's can be very helpful antioxidants for arthritis and other joint problems, as well. Be Well, Marcia Elston http://www.wingedseed.com http://www.aromaconnection.org " Give thanks for a little and you will find a lot. " Hausa Saying from Nigeria > > > On Behalf Of David Lambert > Wednesday, February 28, 2007 1:55 PM > > RE: Death by prescription > > I hate to be a pain, but I want to make sure I got this all > correct, because I'd like to try it too: > > Grapeseed Extract > Vitamin C (2 grams daily) > Kombucha > > You took all of these simultaneously, right? Do you continue > to take them in the same amounts now that you're better? > > [Dave:] Yes, I took these simultaneously. I have since > learned that you > can take far more vitamin C, up to 10 grams a day. Any > excess that your body can't use simply leaves in your urine. > If your urine burns, you're taking too much. Grapeseed > extract is very high in proanthocyanidins, and yes, I still > take all of these, although not as regularly and not in such > high doses. I haven't been bothered by carpal tunnel in many > years, but now I have the beginnings of rheumatoid arthritis, > and for that I have begun taking hyaluronic acid and > astaxathin complex. Hopefully it will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Dave and list, please see below --- David Lambert <dlmbrt wrote: someone previously wrote: > You took all of these simultaneously, right? Do you > continue to take them in > the same amounts now that you're better? > > [Dave:] Yes, I took these simultaneously. I have > since learned that you > can take far more vitamin C, up to 10 grams a day. > Any excess that your > body can’t use simply leaves in your urine. You know that's what I always thought too. But I have come to believe from my studies that the RATIO of one nutrient to others is of upmost importance. Since you say that you also have arthritis, I wonder if your (Dave's) calcium/phos/mag is not out of order. The body (aka Vital Force, Qi, etc.) so loves/needs to have a *particular ratio* that it will keep that ratio to the detriment of other things (and the less important to the survival of the one organism after reproduction age the less the body " cares " ). So if you take too much XYZ it will pull ABC out to balance/storage. And low ABC might make something else happen. ie, too much phos = calcium pulled from storage (bones) to balance = ostioporosis. Personally, I stick with nutrient dense food products and small amounts of food based supplements for such kinds of problems. KD ______________________________\ ____ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Mail Q & A for great tips from Answers users. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396546091 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2007 Report Share Posted March 1, 2007 That's right Marcia, too much Vit. C makes you run faster!! Dawn > Taking more Vit C than your body needs or can absorb can also cause > diarrhea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2007 Report Share Posted March 2, 2007 >>How did you treat your carpal tunnel - I am thinking that I am developing this My husband is an Active Release Technique Practitioner. He and the chiropractor that he used to work with have gotten rid of my friends carpal tunnel. It took going to both of them as the chiropractor does manipulations and that is not a part of ART. There is a web-site that will direct you to a provider in your area. It is a medically patented technique that can prevent many surgeries. My friend has no symptoms any more even after gardening and crocheting. It's really amazing stuff. I used to be debilitated by headaches quite frequently but ART has kept them in check. Christine www.soulkitchencreations.com Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2007 Report Share Posted March 3, 2007 Thanks so much for your thoughts David......and also the others who addressed the economic problem. I suffer with CFS and Fibromyalgia and right now the narcotic pain meds are keeping me from losing all hope. I pray that one day I will be off them and on to a different kind of healing process. I'm interested in the Lifestyle changes that your wife made Dave if she would be willing to share them. I am in counseling but she is not trained in chronic illness so I'm looking for another counselor. .Peggy Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. www.LMsoap.com > [Dave:] They do, and there's no denying it. But in this age when Big > Pharma is marketing their stuff directly to the public, it's more important > than ever to own our own health and make informed decisions. Here's an > example. My wife has fibromyalgia, and over the last 20 years or so has > become more and more disabled. There have been times when she just hasn't > wanted to go on, every day in pain and without hope of improvement. The > only thing the doctors have ever given her is pain meds, and when they quit > working due to tolerance build-up, they pile on antidepressants. About two > months ago I began taking her to a naturopath. This guy does nothing but > counseling and massage, and yet she's in better shape now than she's been > since I've known her. Plus, she has something no doctor ever gave her > before, and that's hope. Lifestyle changes, not prescriptions, have made > the difference. > > Another example. Last November I missed a week of work with the flu, and > they wouldn't let me go back to work without a doctor's note - otherwise I'd > never have gone to an allopath even though I have coverage. They told me it > was not the flu but my heart. They used the term " walking time-bomb " and > generally scared me because I had a heart attack in 1992. After two months > of tests, they've decided my heart is normal (which it isn't), but they want > me to take statins anyway. The whole episode pretty well destroyed my > provider's credibility as far as I'm concerned. I am totally convinced that > a red flag went up when a 56-year-old man who is NOT on ANY daily meds came > through that door. They just wanted to pull me in, and I would rather take > responsibility for my own health. If and when I get catastrophically ill, > or need surgery, or something like that, I will deal with the medical > establishment and be grateful. Until then, I'm on my own which is how I > like it. I have arthritis and gout, and am perfectly able to treat them on > my own. When I was disabled with carpal tunnel syndrome 15 years ago and > the doctor was ready to cut on my wrists, I decided to treat it myself. My > doctor laughed at me - literally! - but I never saw him again, and I cured > myself. > > My point is, don't ever assume that doctors have your best interest at > heart. After all, if you're well, he loses a customer. So his vested > interest is to keep you coming back. Anyone who assumes all standard > medicine is bad is simply wrong. But so is anyone who assumes it's all > good. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2007 Report Share Posted March 4, 2007 > Thanks so much for your thoughts David......and also the others who > addressed the economic problem. I suffer with CFS and Fibromyalgia and > right now the narcotic pain meds are keeping me from losing all hope. I > pray that one day I will be off them and on to a different kind of healing > process. I'm interested in the Lifestyle changes that your wife made Dave > if she would be willing to share them. I am in counseling but she is not > trained in chronic illness so I'm looking for another counselor. .Peggy > Lowell McNaughton Soap Co. > www.LMsoap.com [Dave:] Peggy, I know what you're going through, and it breaks my heart to know that so many are enduring what my wonderful wife and soulmate (the one and only Princess Nafetah) has had to live through. I know this is OT so feel free to email me off-list. But meanwhile, there are enough people out there who have these problems, some of this information may be useful, even if it is just to give someone hope. First of all, our NP, Phil Selinsky, has a website you should check out. It's not fancy, but it shows how he approaches his work. As he says: " I don't treat disease, I teach health. " www.thehumanmachine.com The proposition he gave us the first day was that fibromyalgia and related things such as CFS and other things, are autoimmune diseases, meaning by definition that they are the result of the body's attempt to correct deficiencies and imbalances that are either there from birth, or have been unknowingly allowed to exist and grow for years, in many cases an entire lifetime. Correct the deficiency or imbalance, and the body will heal. Mask the symptoms with drugs, and the condition will ultimately overwhelm the system. Every body is different. Many, many diseases are caused by our failure to maintain a healthy diet. I read somewhere, years ago, that the average American carries around 5 to 35 pounds (!) of rotting fecal matter that never is fully evacuated. I've been gifted with a free-flowing set of pipes, but my wife has had problems with being stopped up pretty much all her life. So immediate treatment for her consisted of some REALLY deep abdominal massage (painful!) as well as daily enemas and soaks in a strong solution of Epsom salts. We started this program with some doubts, but figured what harm could it do - and I've told her for years she should make enemas part of her routine. People don't like to talk about enemas, they're yucky. We'd rather not think about that part of our bodies anymore than necessary. But the truth is that this negligence costs millions of us our lives, unnecessarily. Keeping the digestive system working from end to end is one of the most important things we can do to safeguard our health. In the case of my Nafetah, the results were dramatic pretty much from the start. Two months later she looks ten years younger, so different that I've started a series of photos to document the difference in her appearance. She still has a long way to go, and a lot of work to do. This isn't over, it's just begun. The thing about the naturopathic approach is that it isn't a quick fix. People are educated/conditioned to taking pills, and the idea of working to rebuild their vitality doesn't compute. That's where the lifestyle changes come in. Since the we've been together (4 yrs last week), there's been no alcohol, refined sugar or flour, or fast food in the house at all. That was a plus. We are working on caffeine and tobacco, those are real toughies. Caffeine is the easier of the two, and I know I can NOT just cold-turkey off that. We are learning ways to maintain proper blood pH so that the body does not leach calcium from the bones to correct acidosis (resulting in osteoporosis) or crystallize excess uric acid in the cool joints (gout in the toes - OMG ouch!!) Phil puts a lot of emphasis on food combining - eating specific nutrients in a specific order. I'm just beginning to get a hold of that. We are also pretty much vegetarian at this point. That's been a gradual change. It isn't so much a commitment as it is an evolution, and meat really doesn't appeal to us any more. We eat almost 100% organic. We gotta find some new restaurants - the ones we'd gone to for years make us sick now! The narcotic pain meds, how well we know them! The prescriptions that have maintained her for years are not simple to deal with. Nafetah estimates that since she began seeing Phil, her use of pain meds is down 90%. It may not be too long before some of the other stuff can go, too. There's an irony to this. My wife has received disability for years. We pay for all those prescriptions, not retail praise God, but through the machine that drives me crazy, the medical/insurance/pharma demon that both blesses and curses us. If she no longer needs her meds, her SSI will stop. Her appearance is already so different, it is going to be hard to hide the fact that something is making her better. This could be leading to vibrant health AND financial problems as we struggle to replace that income. Already it is an issue, because insurance doesn't cover the visits to the NP (or the weekly 75-mile round trip) or any of the natural supplements. We're living on a small income as it is, in a part of the country where the cost of living is brutal. There are always unforeseen factors in these things. My own health has taken turns for improvement over the last couple years, too. Despite a heart scare over the winter, two things that have improved for me are my vision and my arthritis. I have no idea why my vision has improved so dramatically. I've worn glasses or contacts for 50 years, and wore nearly the same prescription for half that time. My right eye was worse than my left. A few years ago I had an eye exam because my old lenses just weren't cutting it. I discovered I'd changed to a much milder prescription, which was now the same for both eyes. Six months ago I discovered by accident that I could see better with one contact lens than with two, which I attributed to the bifocal effect. Two weeks ago I took that one lens out for cleaning, and I haven't put it back. I don't need it, I can see. I can read all but the tiniest print although I'm still more comfortable with reading glasses. I can stand across the room and read a label. Street signs are no problem. It's not crystal-clear, especially in the distance, but I am not employed as a sharpshooter. This is amazing to me, and I wish I knew what it is that's caused it. As for the arthritis and the gout that have begun to get me as they got my dad, I think I have hit on the right combo of supplements, at last. This last week has been pain-free in my hand, better in the feet. Hopefully all this personal stuff doesn't seem too off-topic. I know that sometimes I come across as paranoid and hostile about doctors. To an extent I suppose I am, but I am well aware of both sides of the coin. Doctors have done amazing things. They are good at treating acute conditions. Surgery has progressed beyond astonishing. The lives saved and the quality of life given to otherwise hopeless people, the increased life expectancy we all have, are testament to the advances we've made. Medicine is downright inspiring sometimes. But I believe - hell, I know - that we will never be able to manipulate the stuff of life with the finesse that the Creator did and does. We have to remain humble in that regard, and too often we aren't. And folks, this machine we inhabit during this brief physical life is flippin' incredible. Give it the resources and it will at least try to repair itself. It doesn't last forever, but it is capable of lasting far longer than most of us know. Doctors can help us, but my body was given to ME, with the responsibility to maintain it or suffer the consequences. I would call that my 2¢ worth but it was a real soap-boxer. I apologize to those who'd rather stay closer to topic. I'll gladly take it off-list with anyone who wants to pursue the subject. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release 3/3/2007 8:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2007 Report Share Posted March 6, 2007 Dear David....thank you for the wonderful information....it is inspiring to be sure to hear of the changes in your wife and yourself. I pray that one day I will be able to make such a report in myself. I'm on really heavy duty stuff as far as narcotics so I know that it will take time and dedication. I'll check out the website and write to you off the list if I have more questions. Thank you again. Peggy [Dave:] Peggy, I know what you're going through, and it breaks my heart to know that so many are enduring what my wonderful wife and soulmate (the one and only Princess Nafetah) has had to live through. I know this is OT so feel free to email me off-list. But meanwhile, there are enough people out there who have these problems, some of this information may be useful, even if it is just to give someone hope. First of all, our NP, Phil Selinsky, has a website you should check out. It's not fancy, but it shows how he approaches his work. As he says: " I don't treat disease, I teach health. " www.thehumanmachine.com The proposition he gave us the first day was that fibromyalgia and related things such as CFS and other things, are autoimmune diseases, meaning by definition that they are the result of the body's attempt to correct deficiencies and imbalances that are either there from birth, or have been unknowingly allowed to exist and grow for years, in many cases an entire lifetime. Correct the deficiency or imbalance, and the body will heal. Mask the symptoms with drugs, and the condition will ultimately overwhelm the system. Every body is different. Many, many diseases are caused by our failure to maintain a healthy diet. I read somewhere, years ago, that the average American carries around 5 to 35 pounds (!) of rotting fecal matter that never is fully evacuated. I've been gifted with a free-flowing set of pipes, but my wife has had problems with being stopped up pretty much all her life. So immediate treatment for her consisted of some REALLY deep abdominal massage (painful!) as well as daily enemas and soaks in a strong solution of Epsom salts. We started this program with some doubts, but figured what harm could it do - and I've told her for years she should make enemas part of her routine. People don't like to talk about enemas, they're yucky. We'd rather not think about that part of our bodies anymore than necessary. But the truth is that this negligence costs millions of us our lives, unnecessarily. Keeping the digestive system working from end to end is one of the most important things we can do to safeguard our health. In the case of my Nafetah, the results were dramatic pretty much from the start. Two months later she looks ten years younger, so different that I've started a series of photos to document the difference in her appearance. She still has a long way to go, and a lot of work to do. This isn't over, it's just begun. The thing about the naturopathic approach is that it isn't a quick fix. People are educated/conditioned to taking pills, and the idea of working to rebuild their vitality doesn't compute. That's where the lifestyle changes come in. Since the we've been together (4 yrs last week), there's been no alcohol, refined sugar or flour, or fast food in the house at all. That was a plus. We are working on caffeine and tobacco, those are real toughies. Caffeine is the easier of the two, and I know I can NOT just cold-turkey off that. We are learning ways to maintain proper blood pH so that the body does not leach calcium from the bones to correct acidosis (resulting in osteoporosis) or crystallize excess uric acid in the cool joints (gout in the toes - OMG ouch!!) Phil puts a lot of emphasis on food combining - eating specific nutrients in a specific order. I'm just beginning to get a hold of that. We are also pretty much vegetarian at this point. That's been a gradual change. It isn't so much a commitment as it is an evolution, and meat really doesn't appeal to us any more. We eat almost 100% organic. We gotta find some new restaurants - the ones we'd gone to for years make us sick now! The narcotic pain meds, how well we know them! The prescriptions that have maintained her for years are not simple to deal with. Nafetah estimates that since she began seeing Phil, her use of pain meds is down 90%. It may not be too long before some of the other stuff can go, too. There's an irony to this. My wife has received disability for years. We pay for all those prescriptions, not retail praise God, but through the machine that drives me crazy, the medical/insurance/pharma demon that both blesses and curses us. If she no longer needs her meds, her SSI will stop. Her appearance is already so different, it is going to be hard to hide the fact that something is making her better. This could be leading to vibrant health AND financial problems as we struggle to replace that income. Already it is an issue, because insurance doesn't cover the visits to the NP (or the weekly 75-mile round trip) or any of the natural supplements. We're living on a small income as it is, in a part of the country where the cost of living is brutal. There are always unforeseen factors in these things. My own health has taken turns for improvement over the last couple years, too. Despite a heart scare over the winter, two things that have improved for me are my vision and my arthritis. I have no idea why my vision has improved so dramatically. I've worn glasses or contacts for 50 years, and wore nearly the same prescription for half that time. My right eye was worse than my left. A few years ago I had an eye exam because my old lenses just weren't cutting it. I discovered I'd changed to a much milder prescription, which was now the same for both eyes. Six months ago I discovered by accident that I could see better with one contact lens than with two, which I attributed to the bifocal effect. Two weeks ago I took that one lens out for cleaning, and I haven't put it back. I don't need it, I can see. I can read all but the tiniest print although I'm still more comfortable with reading glasses. I can stand across the room and read a label. Street signs are no problem. It's not crystal-clear, especially in the distance, but I am not employed as a sharpshooter. This is amazing to me, and I wish I knew what it is that's caused it. As for the arthritis and the gout that have begun to get me as they got my dad, I think I have hit on the right combo of supplements, at last. This last week has been pain-free in my hand, better in the feet. Hopefully all this personal stuff doesn't seem too off-topic. I know that sometimes I come across as paranoid and hostile about doctors. To an extent I suppose I am, but I am well aware of both sides of the coin. Doctors have done amazing things. They are good at treating acute conditions. Surgery has progressed beyond astonishing. The lives saved and the quality of life given to otherwise hopeless people, the increased life expectancy we all have, are testament to the advances we've made. Medicine is downright inspiring sometimes. But I believe - hell, I know - that we will never be able to manipulate the stuff of life with the finesse that the Creator did and does. We have to remain humble in that regard, and too often we aren't. And folks, this machine we inhabit during this brief physical life is flippin' incredible. Give it the resources and it will at least try to repair itself. It doesn't last forever, but it is capable of lasting far longer than most of us know. Doctors can help us, but my body was given to ME, with the responsibility to maintain it or suffer the consequences. I would call that my 2¢ worth but it was a real soap-boxer. I apologize to those who'd rather stay closer to topic. I'll gladly take it off-list with anyone who wants to pursue the subject. -- Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release 3/3/2007 8:12 AM Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.6/709 - Release 3/3/07 8:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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