need info on ingredients

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I'm expanding my product line and have been checking out different

ingredients. There are a few that I can't find a lot of info on and

was hoping some of you knowledgeable folks could help me out. I want

to know how natural these ingredients are, what type of products they

might be used in, and any experience anyone has had with them. Here

they are:

Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin c ester)- I know this is great for anti-

aging. anybody use it? any advice?

Polysorbate 20- This doesn't sound natural but everything I have read

makes it sound very safe and at least naturally derived.

DMAE- I want to use this in a firming face cream. Natural? Any

problems? Advice?

EDTA(ethylenediaminetetracetic acid)- Wow! First of all can anybody

even say that? I want to use this in conjunction with preservatives to

improve the stability of some products but I know very little about it.

Guar gum- I can't remember why this is on my list but I'm sure I have

it written down in one of my many notebooks. I see it listed in

products. I assume it is a good thickener. Anything else? I use

xanthan gum as a thickener. Does guar gum compare?

Also, I can't remember the rules for this list on supplier info but

you can email me personally if needed. Has anybody used essential oils

from Essential Wholesale? Are they high quality? Some of them are so

much less expensive than what I am currently using. I know wholesale

can do that but there is such a BIG difference it makes me cautious.

Thank you in advance for any info. You guys rock!

Christine( finally out of lurkdom, now I will never shut-up)

www.soulkitchencreations.com

[Guest guest]

--- soulkitchencreations

<soulkitchencreations wrote:

 

> I'm expanding my product line and have been checking

> out different

> ingredients. There are a few that I can't find a lot

> of info on and

> was hoping some of you knowledgeable folks could

> help me out. I want

> to know how natural these ingredients are, what type

> of products they

> might be used in, and any experience anyone has had

> with them. Here

> they are:

> Ascorbyl Palmitate (vitamin c ester)- I know this is

> great for anti-

> aging. anybody use it? any advice?

> Polysorbate 20- This doesn't sound natural but

> everything I have read

> makes it sound very safe and at least naturally

> derived.

> DMAE- I want to use this in a firming face cream.

> Natural? Any

> problems? Advice?

> EDTA(ethylenediaminetetracetic acid)- Wow! First of

> all can anybody

> even say that? I want to use this in conjunction

> with preservatives to

> improve the stability of some products but I know

> very little about it.

> Guar gum- I can't remember why this is on my list

> but I'm sure I have

> it written down in one of my many notebooks. I see

> it listed in

> products. I assume it is a good thickener. Anything

> else? I use

> xanthan gum as a thickener. Does guar gum compare?

> Also, I can't remember the rules for this list on

> supplier info but

> you can email me personally if needed. Has anybody

> used essential oils

> from Essential Wholesale? Are they high quality?

> Some of them are so

> much less expensive than what I am currently using.

> I know wholesale

> can do that but there is such a BIG difference it

> makes me cautious.

> Thank you in advance for any info. You guys rock!

> Christine( finally out of lurkdom, now I will never

> shut-up)

> www.soulkitchencreations.com

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Hi Christine

 

Hoo boy! Here we go...

 

Polysorbate 20 is derived from lauric acid which, in

turn, is derived from vegetable oils, commonly coconut

oil. It is generally regarded as safe, and I haven't

heard any grousings about it like you hear about

parabens and sulfates. It's pretty far down the food

chain to be called " natural " , but " naturally derived "

is probably fair enough.

 

DMAE, from what I have researched occurs naturally in

certain fish, and some websites refer to it as a

natural ingredient, but then again they are peddling a

product so take that with a grain of salt. Whether the

stuff you buy is derived from natural sources or

synthesized in a lab is something you'll need to ask

the supplier about. I don't know anything about EDTA.

AS for gums, I remember from when I was using them for

making incense, reading that guar gum and tragacanth

gum are more stable than xanthan gum, but don't quote

me on that.

 

I have purchased a lot of things from Essential

Wholesale and I've always been pleased with the

quality and customer service. I've only purchased a

few EO's from then - basic stuff like citrus oils. I

see no reason to be suspicious because of their

prices. But it's always a good idea to get samples,

especially of the more expensive ones.

 

Best wishes!

 

-Patty

 

Two good books to get are A Consumer's Dictionary of

Cosmetic Ingredients by Ruth Winter and Milady's Skin

Care and Cosmetic Ingredient Dictionary.

 

 

 

 

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